tone advice

Tips and techniques for Minimoog Analog Synthesizers
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archer
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tone advice

Post by archer » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:21 am

i love moog tones, but so often i hear the same old sounds coming from people's moogs. I keep hearing the same bass tones and prog sounding leads over and over again, and I want to flex my voyager's muscle and get more minimal tones that aren't often associated with the moog brand.

below is a song that i love. let me know if these types of sounds can be attained on a voyager, or if you've attained something similar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JaLsK2VQ8g

Just Me
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Re: tone advice

Post by Just Me » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:03 am

Listen to this and read the description...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5N57vmoBcLY
"Music expresses that which can not be said and on which it is impossible to be silent."

unfiltered37
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Re: tone advice

Post by unfiltered37 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:16 pm

that is unbelievably easy. you just have to think outside the box. First if you want to diverge from the "moog sound" change the filter pole. Do things like envelope and S+H the oscillator sync at the same time, bring the mixer signal out and process it before sending it back out, use effects, mix the filters to get a bandpass, tune the oscillators to musical intervals,etc. Just get away from what I call "preset thinking", and the options are endless. I only have a model D and some MF's and never run out of new things.

GovernorSilver
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Re: tone advice

Post by GovernorSilver » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:08 pm

archer wrote:i love moog tones, but so often i hear the same old sounds coming from people's moogs. I keep hearing the same bass tones and prog sounding leads over and over again, and I want to flex my voyager's muscle and get more minimal tones that aren't often associated with the moog brand.


These aren't exactly the sounds you are looking for, based on the song you posted, but I've always like this demo which is refreshingly free of the "same old sounds". :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agFgMYp97yY

I like these non-traditional (for a Moog) sounds too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A1ojMwmLpE

unfiltered37
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Re: tone advice

Post by unfiltered37 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:22 pm

No offense, but burying the wonderful warm euphonic tone of the model D in tons of ugly digital processing isn't exactly ideal to me. The first clip I have always detested, not just because it is blasphemy, but the fat analog tone turns to DX7-like digital decay.

GovernorSilver
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Re: tone advice

Post by GovernorSilver » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:42 pm

unfiltered37 wrote:No offense


None taken, and I meant no offense to those who prefer "traditional Moog" tones. I love them myself, just not for all situations.

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Re: tone advice

Post by ColorForm2113 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:04 am

one thing I've been doing lately to deviate from the norm is using oscillator 3 as my fundamental oscillator then have it modulate oscillator 1 via the front panel switch ( exponential fm I believe?) Then sync oscillator 2 to oscillator 1, keeping the volume of 1 and 2 low so they just add harmonics to oscillator 3. then experiment with different wave form settings and different pitch modulation for oscillators 1 and 2.
and yes filter pole settings make a huge difference.
My modular so far: Q104, Q106 x2, Q107, Q108, Q109 x2 , Q116, Q118, Q127 w/Q140, Q130, STG Wave Folder, Mixer and Mankato playing with Moog Voyager, VX-351, CP-251, MF-104M x2 ( STEREO!) Volca Beats and Bass, Arturia Beat step

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