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How to deactivate Midi CC?

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:04 pm
by psicolor
Is it possible to stop the voyager sending midi cc messages when i turn a knob, while it should still send note on/off, aftertouch, pitchbend and modwheel?
Please excuse me, i know i've already asked this question earlier, but i can't find it again...

I want to use the Voyager as a MIDI master keyboard, so i need the keyboard and the playing aids as midi messages, but i don't want the voyager to send midi ccs for the other knobs, which i only need for the voyager.

Please also excuse my lousy english, i'm completely out of practice.

Re: How to deactivate Midi CC?

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:41 pm
by thealien666
Page 64 of the online user manual here:

http://www.moogmusic.com/sites/default/ ... _combo.pdf

Re: How to deactivate Midi CC?

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:49 pm
by Themaktima
I´m wondering, too.

The local setting lets me turn off pots affecting the voyager, but i can´t keep them from sending out midi cc data...

Re: How to deactivate Midi CC?

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:09 pm
by thealien666
Sorry then... Maybe it's not possible ?

Or simply do not touch any panel knobs while using the Voyager as a MIDI keyboard controller...

Re: How to deactivate Midi CC?

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:06 am
by psicolor
Its very bugging to always plug in or plug out the midi cable if i want to touch play the voyager.

Re: How to deactivate Midi CC?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:33 am
by J C Selector
I have the same issue, is there a midi "box" that you can remap the cc values inline? (not software ) or something

Re: How to deactivate Midi CC?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:25 pm
by MC
J C Selector wrote:I have the same issue, is there a midi "box" that you can remap the cc values inline? (not software ) or something


Nothing made today. A loooooong time ago there was, back in the 80s. Some obscure company and haven't heard of them for a long time. Never seen one for sale anywhere.

Re: How to deactivate Midi CC?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:17 am
by J C Selector
Wow the 80's were along time ago. I must be getting old.

Re: How to deactivate Midi CC?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:30 am
by _DemonDan_
Welcome back to the '80s!

Here are several boxes that will allow you to filter or
convert selected MIDI Messages and much more:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MIDIeventP/

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MIDIevent/

http://midisolutions.com/prodrte.htm

Hope this helps.

Re: How to deactivate Midi CC?

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:09 am
by PulsePsycle
psicolor wrote:Is it possible to stop the voyager sending midi cc messages when i turn a knob, while it should still send note on/off, aftertouch, pitchbend and modwheel?
Please excuse me, i know i've already asked this question earlier, but i can't find it again...

I want to use the Voyager as a MIDI master keyboard, so i need the keyboard and the playing aids as midi messages, but i don't want the voyager to send midi ccs for the other knobs, which i only need for the voyager.

Please also excuse my lousy english, i'm completely out of practice.


Also, any signal coming in to Mod1 + Mod2 is send to the Midi Out (e.g. the LFO tri from the CP-251 sends CC4 + CC36 messages)

Re: How to deactivate Midi CC?

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:30 pm
by J C Selector
Thanx DemonDan, never played with sysex ,also been playing "computerless" for a while now.

Re: How to deactivate Midi CC?

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:11 pm
by misterpete
You can also most likely filter out CC inputs on your DAW. I don't use any of the others but within Logic see:
Project Settings --> Recording --> MIDI settings
Within this dialog you can have Logic ignore ALL MIDI CC messages and just record the (midi) notes you're playing.

Filtering individual events in Logic is a little more difficult and requires using a transformer in the Logic environment. AFAIK, the only one I really NEED to filter is CC #3 from LFO which will turn on the SOLO button on the track you are recording to, making tracking an overdub impossible.

Haven't installed it yet, but I just downloaded a freeware software solution similar to the hardware listed in this thread: http://www.subtlesoft.square7.net/MidiPipe.html

EDIT: I put in a feature request in another thread about this asking if a Voyager firmware update might be able to address this issue the way the Slim Phatty does, giving us the option to filter out CC messages directly from the instrument LEDs panel. ~ big plus side of keeping it in the hardware is that you can then use your Voyager modulation knobs without changing any parameters on slaved MIDI instruments

Re: How to deactivate Midi CC?

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:38 am
by simpak
psicolor wrote:Is it possible to stop the voyager sending midi cc messages when i turn a knob, while it should still send note on/off, aftertouch, pitchbend and modwheel?
Please excuse me, i know i've already asked this question earlier, but i can't find it again...

I want to use the Voyager as a MIDI master keyboard, so i need the keyboard and the playing aids as midi messages, but i don't want the voyager to send midi ccs for the other knobs, which i only need for the voyager.

Please also excuse my lousy english, i'm completely out of practice.



Your english is good bro,, need some help here... :)

Re: How to deactivate Midi CC?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:21 pm
by edrochagoncalves
psicolor wrote:Is it possible to stop the voyager sending midi cc messages when i turn a knob, while it should still send note on/off, aftertouch, pitchbend and modwheel?
Please excuse me, i know i've already asked this question earlier, but i can't find it again...

I want to use the Voyager as a MIDI master keyboard, so i need the keyboard and the playing aids as midi messages, but i don't want the voyager to send midi ccs for the other knobs, which i only need for the voyager.

Please also excuse my lousy english, i'm completely out of practice.


Is there a fix for this? I badly need it too...

Re: How to deactivate Midi CC?

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:47 am
by psicolor
Update: I bought the "Midi Solutions Event Processor Plus", and i love it's flexibility!

When i use my voyager as midi controller, i have my event processor programmed so that it simply drops all midi events except note-on, pitchbend, modwheel and aftertouch.
When gigging, i use a dx7 as my main midi controller. I use the event processor to rescale the velocity (without it you really have to break your fingers if you want to get a note-on event with a velocity of 127) and the foot-controller values (my moog ep-2 has a really weired scaling) and also to remap some ccs to other ccs.
For those of you that work with sequencers: I also tried the event processor between a midi connection that is used to sync two sequencers, and was unable to notice any timinig issues caused by the event processor.

This little tool really kicks ass and i'm sometimes thinking that it would be cool to have two of them ;)