Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

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Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

Post by n2design » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:18 am

Hi All,
Can someone tell me how this is connected? Im thinking about picking up the ring mod, but am wondering what cabling I need to pull this off. Also not sure what input and output chain is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZbOfDlfdqc

Thx!!

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Re: Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

Post by GregAE » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:15 am

n2design wrote:Hi All,
Can someone tell me how this is connected? Im thinking about picking up the ring mod, but am wondering what cabling I need to pull this off. Also not sure what input and output chain is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZbOfDlfdqc

Thx!!


Take a look at my 'Lord Of the RingMod' article on KnobTweak. It explains everything you need to know about the RM:

KnobTweak > Files > Moogerfoogers > MF-102 Ring Modulator > Lord of the RingMod - 2009.pdf

- Greg

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Re: Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

Post by n2design » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:33 am

o AWESOME, looks like Ill find all kinds of stuff here, thanks!!!

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Re: Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

Post by vasago » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:09 pm

A good understanding of the LFO is essential. ;)

Also, you should read a thread on bells/chimes sounds too. Really good use of the mf102 there.

http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewt ... ilit=bells
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Re: Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

Post by n2design » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:35 pm

is this the right kind of insert cable I need?

http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-STP203-Dual- ... 308&sr=8-2

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Re: Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

Post by vasago » Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:59 am

No, all you need is 1 1/4 inch jack from the MIX OUT output of the ringmod to the FILTER IN of the voyager to do that. Im pretty surethe voyager is also having the main out beinng fed into the ringmod as well before going to the amp.
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Re: Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

Post by GregAE » Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:44 am

n2design wrote:is this the right kind of insert cable I need?

http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-STP203-Dual- ... 308&sr=8-2


That'll work!

Keep in mind that the Voyager's Mix Out/Filter In jack is a TRS (Tip - Ring - Sleeve) type that places the Voyager's Mixer Output signal on the Tip ("SEND") and the Filter Input on the Ring ("RETURN").

Personal experience has shown that it's easy to confuse the SEND and RETURN connections on an insert cable, so you might want to label them (mine are marked "FROM VOYAGER" and "TO VOYAGER" - this way there's no confusion). Note also that if you get the SEND and RETURN jacks backwards, no damage will result, but you won't get any sound either. Consider this the first place to check if, after getting things hooked up, you get no sound.

Hope this helps -

Greg

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Re: Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

Post by Mr Shave » Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:07 am

Is there another location for this article? I hate Yahoo groups, and I'm sick of whenever someone asks about the ring mod, the first reply is "go read that knob tweaks article"...

grumble grumble..

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Re: Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

Post by ummagumma » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:47 am

I am trying to figure out how to use the LFO on my MF 102 to do things with my voyager

I have the "lord of the ring mod" PDF, but everything in there uses the VX 351 which I do not have

Can I not just use the ( LFO -->edited ) oscillator out of the MF 102 to affect the voyager?

I am not getting anything when I plug ( LFO -->edited ) OSC out of MF 102 into the voyager control inputs


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Re: Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

Post by stiiiiiiive » Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:49 am

If you want the MF LFO to affect the Voyager, you have to connect the LFO OUTput of the MF to any CV input on the Voyager. There is no audio in here, just CV.

OSC out on the MF is for sending the signal of the oscillator that multiplies the input. It is not the LFO but a VCO - audible frequencies. You should have it to affect any Voyager parameter, but it won't sound the same :)

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Re: Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

Post by ummagumma » Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:21 pm

thanks!!

sorry my terminology is wrong in my original post....I am plugged into the LFO out on the MF102, not the OSC out ( there is no "OSC out" on it )

actually I think I may be using the wrong type of cable, they are just standard patch cords

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Re: Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

Post by stiiiiiiive » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:21 am

Should work. What is the input you plugged the cord in?

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Re: Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

Post by ummagumma » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:54 pm

YES!

that was it...I just picked up some stereo 1/4" cables and it works!

only problem is, I cannot turn it off with the footswitch on the MF 102....is this normal?

I just ran LFO out from MF102 into the red CV inputs on the voyager: filter, wav, pitch, all were affected

I probably need to set something up for mod1, mod2, pan etc

thanks guys!

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Re: Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

Post by Vsyevolod » Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:47 am

The footswitch will send either the bypassed audio or the effected audio, depending on the position of the switch. CV is sent regardless of the status of the footswitch. You can run the CV through a CC pedal which will attenuate it fully.

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Re: Moog Ring Modulator and Voyager

Post by ummagumma » Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:37 pm

thanks Stephen!

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