Need two more oscillators.

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Re: Need two more oscillators.

Post by EricK » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:10 pm

Franklinstower,
You seem like you have your mind made up, but I wanted to mention two things. First, the system I mentioned to you was about 1084 dollars. Add a rack frame and a power supply and you are in the price territory of 2 Mothers (maybe 20-40 bucks more). As far as modular being difficult, I don't agree. When you physically route signals via patch cables, it gives you a better understanding of synthesis because you can plainly see the signal paths. I find this tremendously easier than memorizing the complicated nuances necessary to access certain off-panel features via an OS. But I always encourage people to buy more than they need because it gives them something to grow into. There is no better way to learn in my opinion. I would rather have the option of choosing my own modulation sources to achieve PWM than to be stuck with built-in limitations. For instance, using a saw or a randomized wave to get PWM or combining various waves to get it make for more interesting patches.

And if you want drones, then you really would benefit from the ability to cross-modulate the oscillators.

Here's an example of the moslab 921bs cross modulating. The soundcloud might have some quality loss, but the dropbox version doesn't. Listen on some good speakers. Dropbox will ask you to log in, but click on the X and you will have access to the file.
https://soundcloud.com/rhythmicons/cros ... scillators
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a0rv93qs5jrhprq/CMO.mp3?dl=0


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Re: Need two more oscillators.

Post by stiiiiiiive » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:24 pm

EricK wrote:But I always encourage people to buy more than they need because it gives them something to grow into. There is no better way to learn in my opinion.

That's interesting :)
I always encourage people to try to work out with what they already have because I fond it's a good way to be creative: pushing limits.
That being said, I never thought about your point of view; thanks for sharing!

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Re: Need two more oscillators.

Post by EricK » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:56 pm

Stiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive,
There are certainly advantages to thoroughly exploring a single module vs a big system, and the Voyager is a great example of that, as Colorform has shown me on numerous instances. But a healthy compliment of modules will provide a transition to intermediate level programming while not seeming so limited.
If you buy a student level horn you are going to eventually reach a point where you will need to upgrade. But if you are inclined to spend on an intermediate level horn, you have room to develop your technique to a degree where you can think about getting a pro level horn if you want to pursue that level of playing. I think it is worse to be in a situation where your exploration is stifled and then you have to wait before you can upgrade than having too many functions and getting confused early on. Always think long-term if your budget allows.

You are absolutely right though, with the double and triple functions of modules, it is very beneficial to really maximize your knowledge of it before you get several more, otherwise you risk never learning your system.

I would rather buy a bunch of instruments and spend the rest of my life learning how to play than spending a lifetime mastering one before I ever moved explored another. Maybe this makes me less-than-mediocre on a host of instruments, but I enjoy the challenge and I never get bored. In that sense I still am inherently limited and can thus try creative ways not to sound like I suck on all the instruments.
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Re: Need two more oscillators.

Post by psynthetic » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:11 pm

Taurus 3... drone with your feet and leave both hands free to improvise on the Sub 37 :)

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Re: Need two more oscillators.

Post by stiiiiiiive » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:28 pm

EricK wrote:Stiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive,
There are certainly advantages to thoroughly exploring a single module vs a big system, and the Voyager is a great example of that, as Colorform has shown me on numerous instances. But a healthy compliment of modules will provide a transition to intermediate level programming while not seeming so limited.
If you buy a student level horn you are going to eventually reach a point where you will need to upgrade. But if you are inclined to spend on an intermediate level horn, you have room to develop your technique to a degree where you can think about getting a pro level horn if you want to pursue that level of playing. I think it is worse to be in a situation where your exploration is stifled and then you have to wait before you can upgrade than having too many functions and getting confused early on. Always think long-term if your budget allows.

You are absolutely right though, with the double and triple functions of modules, it is very beneficial to really maximize your knowledge of it before you get several more, otherwise you risk never learning your system.

I would rather buy a bunch of instruments and spend the rest of my life learning how to play than spending a lifetime mastering one before I ever moved explored another. Maybe this makes me less-than-mediocre on a host of instruments, but I enjoy the challenge and I never get bored. In that sense I still am inherently limited and can thus try creative ways not to sound like I suck on all the instruments.

I get that.
In the end of the day, it's a matter of how you have fun :)

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Re: Need two more oscillators.

Post by EricK » Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:47 am

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Re: Need two more oscillators.

Post by slabwax » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:11 pm

Nice demo Eric.

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