Sirin and Minitaur

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Sirin and Minitaur

Post by stiiiiiiive » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:15 pm

So, it seems that the only difference between the brand new Sirin and the good ol' Minitaur is the note range in the high direction. That's on paper however.

Are there any of you guys who have both? Do they differ on a sonic aspect or anything else?
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Re: Sirin and Minitaur

Post by Quatschmacher » Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:20 am

I’m also interested to hear if there are differences in the bass registers.

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Re: Sirin and Minitaur

Post by GENTRY » Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:26 pm

I've found that the oscillators are slightly different. I've just compared the two in this video -

Long story short, the Square wave in the Sirin sounds more similar to the Sub 37 sub oscillator (albeit more vibey), whereas to my ears the Minitaur has more of a Moog Rogue flavour in the Square (which I prefer). The saw wave is basically the same from what I'm hearing. maybe slight less bass/more top, but honestly you'd have a hard time hearing the differences once you're actually using it in a patch.

Both are great, I'm finally selling my Minitaur and Rogue!

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Re: Sirin and Minitaur

Post by franklinstower » Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:38 pm

I've got two Sirins coming in the mail wednesday. Ill let you guys know what I think but my ears take a while to process the differences. I am a huge fan of this new synth from Moog. I've got a good feeling about it and its sound. Been wishing the Minitaur went into the upper ranges for a long time now. This is going to be great.

I think the MIritaur is one of Moogs best sounding synths and that growl will be very nice up in the upper octaves IMO. Now I will have two mother 32's a Minitaur and a Sirin for my drone section.

I do have a question though. Are the Mother 32's control voltages compatible with Sirin? Can I use the Mother 32's keyboard to activate notes on the SIrin via patch cables?

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Re: Sirin and Minitaur

Post by BezO » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:47 pm

Seems like I'm the only disappointed Minitaur owner.

I assume this couldn't be done via firmware update. I'd love to see a hardware update option for the Minitaur if that's what would be necessary.

I'm also curious why they didn't add a power button/switch. I had to leave the screws out of my rack so I could unplug my Minitaur.
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Re: Sirin and Minitaur

Post by mfl » Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:56 am

Quatschmacher wrote: Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:20 am I’m also interested to hear if there are differences in the bass registers.
There are differences in the bass registers of the Minitaur and Sirin (Minitaur goes lower, way too low).

Sirin is hard locked to MIDI note 16 (about 20 Hz, 1 octave bellow a 4 string bass). Minitaur can go as low as MIDI note 4 (10.3 Hz) and stay fairly in tune and stable. Below that (notes 3 to 0), it will play lower sounds but out of tune (lower than the expected notes).

However, the main difference between the Minitaur and Sirin (having owned a Minitaur for only 2 years and a Sirin for a year) is not the note ranges but the oscillators sound. Sirin sounds stunningly bright and pure. Minitaur sounds like a bass.

Sirin is objectively more beautiful but I prefer my Minitaur.
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