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Minitaur LFO sync to Ableton

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:54 am
by szynkazmaslem
Hello!

I tried to find the topic but with no luck, I would like to sync my Minitaur with Ableton, Ableton sends midi out but Minitaur is not receiving i. t
Changing MIDI IN to Quartet on a Minitaur is not making any difference. Where am I wrong?
Thx in Advance!

Re: Minitaur LFO sync to Ableton

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:03 am
by Joscuzz
Are you using Ableton's "External Instrument"? Unfortunately I can't screenshot for some reason, but my set up is like this:
External Instrument - MIDI To Minitaur Out Channel 1
Audio From - No Input
MIDI Channel - MIDI From Minitaur - All Channels - Audio To (Separate Audio track routed for this with "Monitor" On)

I have the Minitaur VST on the MIDI channel along side the External Instrument and all parameters are available including LFO Sync to MIDI option.

You might have to tinker with the config to suit your set up but I hope this helps in some way.

Re: Minitaur LFO sync to Ableton

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:14 am
by jupiter
You have to turn On the Sync options for both Minitaur In and Out drivers in Ableton preferences. Then turn On MIDI SYNC in the editor. No need to use it as an external instrument anymore since v3.2.

Re: Minitaur LFO sync to Ableton

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:59 am
by szynkazmaslem
Thanks a lot, but in my case it is not working as expected... no sync, I would like the minitaur plugin to blink midi in matching with Ableton. And if you say "to turn On the Sync options for both Minitaur In and Out drivers in Ableton preferences" then Ableton will listen to the Minitaur, and I need the opposite.
And what is the difference between Minitaur editor and Minitaur editor - VI? (if it is called Virtual Instrument I would expect it to be loaded on a midi track and to behave as a VI...)

Thx!

Re: Minitaur LFO sync to Ableton

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:42 am
by Joscuzz
I think you need to be looking into using Minitaur as a "slave" to Ableton's midi clock. I dont use Ableton for this, I use Maschine 2 instead. There should be an option (somewhere) in Ableton to "send master clock" or similar. maybe Jupiter can advise further? Good luck.

Re: Minitaur LFO sync to Ableton

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:35 am
by szynkazmaslem
Thank you Joscuzz, I know that the Minitaur should be slave but I can't get it to work like that! Frustrating :cry:

Re: Minitaur LFO sync to Ableton

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:59 am
by Joscuzz
Reading some of the Ableton forum posts and historically it looks like Ableton has a weakness with its Midi clock. If you haven't done so already, maybe jump over there and ask around?

Wish I could be of more help.

Re: Minitaur LFO sync to Ableton

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:06 am
by SlowLFOtoPitch
Hi All!

I believe the problem Szynkazmaslem is encountering here could be due to the MIDI settings in Ableton. In the screenshot of the MIDI preferences in Ableton, I see that SYNC for "Output: Minitaur" is turned OFF. Try turning this ON to see if this resolves the sync issue. All of your other settings appear to be correct. Make sure that you also have the LFO set to MIDI Sync in the "Under the Hood" tab of the Minitaur editor if trying to get the LFO to sync to MIDI. If you continue to have any problems or questions feel free to reach out to us directly through the following:

Moog Tech Support
[email protected]
(828)-251-0090 ext. 246

Hope this helps! :mrgreen:

Re: Minitaur LFO sync to Ableton

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:16 pm
by santokie
I noticed thw LFO key sync doesn't work on my Minitur since updating. Has anyone else noticed?

Re: Minitaur LFO sync to Ableton

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:25 pm
by Nirollet
Hi the way I used to sync minitaur with Ableton I used both usb and midi cable : one for midi notes (via a midi keyboard) and one for the LFO sync

make sure that in the settings of ableton : MIDI sync enabled for Minitaur output

hope that helps

Re: Minitaur LFO sync to Ableton

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:00 am
by MR79
The sync of the lfo is not really good with ableton...
What are the best settings in ableton? I have only put the track out and sync out to ON. Is it OK?
I'm using USB midi. Is it really better to use the midi din to have a better sync?
Thank you for your help.

Re: Minitaur LFO sync to Ableton

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:52 am
by jupiter
LFO sync is perfect here. I am using 2.2. The waveshape is perfectly synchronized to the beat.

Re: Minitaur LFO sync to Ableton

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:11 am
by MR79
How do you sync your Minitaur with Live? USB or din?

Re: Minitaur LFO sync to Ableton

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:48 am
by jupiter
via USB... there isn't really any point using DIN since the ports are shared between Ableton and minitaur editor.

Re: Minitaur LFO sync to Ableton

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:07 am
by MR79
I use it like this and the LFO is really not perfectly sync..... Live is horrible for syncing perfectly... Like USB too!
I will receive soon an USAMO and I will get a real great sync!!! :P