Moog CE String Filter
Moog CE String Filter
40 band of filtering! How many of these were made? Has anyone ever tried one?
They were only made to order in the Moog Music Buffalo days, never a production piece. I doubt there are very many, definitely rarer than the 1630 Frequency Shifter if the 'bay is any measure. Only Moog CE makes them anymore.
From what I've read of owner's experiences with them, they sound amazing. Jan Hammer used to play his Freeman string synth through one, can't cite a specific example.
I have an early 80s keyboard mag interview with Deep Purple's Jon Lord. He did a solo album (never released in the states) that had his Polymoog strings put through a Moog String Filter. Then a Moog Music rep dropped in and heard the featured piece. The rep asked who did the strings (thinking they were real), and when Jon told him it was the Polymoog the rep went very red.
A few years ago, Genesis dumped a pile of vintage gear on the 'bay. One of them was a Moog String Filter. None of Tony Banks' keyboards came up, and a bunch of the gear were old "Genesis" stencil Anvil cases with rotting foam inside.
I know the concept behind the String Filter and I have schematics of the original AES paper that pioneered the idea. I don't know anyone who has schematics for the Moog model though.
From what I've read of owner's experiences with them, they sound amazing. Jan Hammer used to play his Freeman string synth through one, can't cite a specific example.
I have an early 80s keyboard mag interview with Deep Purple's Jon Lord. He did a solo album (never released in the states) that had his Polymoog strings put through a Moog String Filter. Then a Moog Music rep dropped in and heard the featured piece. The rep asked who did the strings (thinking they were real), and when Jon told him it was the Polymoog the rep went very red.
A few years ago, Genesis dumped a pile of vintage gear on the 'bay. One of them was a Moog String Filter. None of Tony Banks' keyboards came up, and a bunch of the gear were old "Genesis" stencil Anvil cases with rotting foam inside.
I know the concept behind the String Filter and I have schematics of the original AES paper that pioneered the idea. I don't know anyone who has schematics for the Moog model though.
Wow what do you think one would go for today? 8k? How many knobs were on one of these?
I found this guy that made a clone, Jürgen Haible. Well he's working on one:
http://home.debitel.net/user/jhaible/jh ... ilter.html
The mp3's sound incredible.
He's also working on a Frequency Shifter clone.
I found this guy that made a clone, Jürgen Haible. Well he's working on one:
http://home.debitel.net/user/jhaible/jh ... ilter.html
The mp3's sound incredible.
He's also working on a Frequency Shifter clone.
8K? Don't be ridiculous. Modusonics will build you a new one for $1345.
Knobs: input level, output level, resonance. Input jack for CV control of resonance. There are four "Filter Frequency Selector" switches for enabling low, low-mid, mid-hi, and hi filters.
There isn't even an image of one on the net that I know of.
I know of Jürgen Haible's work, he's very talented. He completed his frequency shifter clone at least four years ago.
Knobs: input level, output level, resonance. Input jack for CV control of resonance. There are four "Filter Frequency Selector" switches for enabling low, low-mid, mid-hi, and hi filters.
There isn't even an image of one on the net that I know of.
I know of Jürgen Haible's work, he's very talented. He completed his frequency shifter clone at least four years ago.
If you think the String Filter or the 1630 FS are rare, try finding a DVCO.
This is a 2U rack dual VCO designed for expanding Minimoogs. Also a custom order, not a production piece. Controls for waveforms, pulse width, octaves, detune, level, and sync. The oscillator circuits resemble the Minimoog oscillators, Joe Rivers of keyboardmuseum.org has schematics and I've seen them.
I think I've seen only ONE of these come up for sale, ever. Even though the Museum of Synthesizer Technology in Britian had a String Filter, they never got a DVCO. I have a pic of one in one of my old back issues of keyboard mag.
Modusonics still makes these too.
This is a 2U rack dual VCO designed for expanding Minimoogs. Also a custom order, not a production piece. Controls for waveforms, pulse width, octaves, detune, level, and sync. The oscillator circuits resemble the Minimoog oscillators, Joe Rivers of keyboardmuseum.org has schematics and I've seen them.
I think I've seen only ONE of these come up for sale, ever. Even though the Museum of Synthesizer Technology in Britian had a String Filter, they never got a DVCO. I have a pic of one in one of my old back issues of keyboard mag.
Modusonics still makes these too.
Yeah I got the dual thing the second time I read the post.
If I bout a bunch of Ken Stone band pass filter kits(w/resonate filter) do you thing I could any way simulate the Moog String Filter? Each board is really cheap $6, and the parts cant be too much.
http://www.cgs.synth.net/
Go to "modules" then "band pass filter.
If I bout a bunch of Ken Stone band pass filter kits(w/resonate filter) do you thing I could any way simulate the Moog String Filter? Each board is really cheap $6, and the parts cant be too much.
http://www.cgs.synth.net/
Go to "modules" then "band pass filter.
Re: Moog CE String Filter
I'm only 8 years late on this post, But I have an original Moog CE String Filter. Contact me with any questions.
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Re: Moog CE String Filter
Hello :
I have an DVCO custom eng rack. This module has 2 minimoog oscillators and will be the only??? vintage moog product with sync .
The sound is amazing and usually I use it with my modular system and the 2600 to get 2 more oscillators. I have all the docs and parts to modify an minimoog to get 5 oscillators . Still I have no plans to fit this kit in my minimoog because its an musonics and I prefer get it as stock as possible.
Mike bucki was selling them (NOS???) but as every knows this "gentlemen" has dissapear form the earth.
If needed I can provide more info & schematics.....
Bollinote
I have an DVCO custom eng rack. This module has 2 minimoog oscillators and will be the only??? vintage moog product with sync .
The sound is amazing and usually I use it with my modular system and the 2600 to get 2 more oscillators. I have all the docs and parts to modify an minimoog to get 5 oscillators . Still I have no plans to fit this kit in my minimoog because its an musonics and I prefer get it as stock as possible.
Mike bucki was selling them (NOS???) but as every knows this "gentlemen" has dissapear form the earth.
If needed I can provide more info & schematics.....
Bollinote
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Re: Moog CE String Filter
Pics pleasemacrutan wrote:I'm only 8 years late on this post, But I have an original Moog CE String Filter. Contact me with any questions.
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Re: Moog CE String Filter
Try Google?ColorForm2113 wrote:Pics please
Below is their image search URL.
Just type "Moog String Filter" into the box and hit return.
http://www.google.com/imghp?
Here is a photo I took of what one looks like inside.
http://www.synthfool.com/moog_string_filter_inside.jpg
Those blue goodies with the red paint on them are adjustment trimmers.
They were all set to an exact setting at the factory and then were sealed with paint to avoid movement in the future.
Simply put, this is a good idea that has limited uses.
It's a bunch of fixed filters tuned to certain frequencies, levels and resonances in order to mimic the acoustic body resonances of a violin or other stringed instrument body.
The idea being that given the right waveform(s), it will add resonant overtones of an acoustic body instrument and thus sound more realistic.
But it is far less magical sounding than just putting a sound through a simple chorus box.
Most people have no need or desire for what it does and Moog didn't sell many.
People often try one and say "is that all it does?"
Still, they have their uses for serious synthesists attempting more perfect string instrument simulations and for special effects.
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Re: Moog CE String Filter
I landed an ADA STD-1 tapped delay last year. That thing can get nice woody resonances. With the MIDImurf->STD-1 chain (using the Murf as a fixed filter bank) you can get scary good violins, violas, cellos, etc.
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Re: Moog CE String Filter
bollinote wrote:Hello :
I have an DVCO custom eng rack. This module has 2 minimoog oscillators and will be the only??? vintage moog product with sync .
The sound is amazing and usually I use it with my modular system and the 2600 to get 2 more oscillators. I have all the docs and parts to modify an minimoog to get 5 oscillators ....
Bollinote
The Multimoog (1977?) has sync.
When did you acquire the DVCO? I thought of buying the unit when they were first advertised (checked out a SEM too), but ended up buying a second Multi to add two more oscillators.