New Moog Guitar?

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Post by ColorForm2113 » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:27 pm

wwwhoa!!! so this is for reals then

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Post by MarkM » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:22 am

Will it support control voltages?
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Post by EricK » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:07 pm

If it is real, I surely hope that they have a fixed bridge option. If it doesn't come without a tremelo bar then I for sure won't ever buy one.
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Post by tore » Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:00 pm

I have a 1978 Gibson RD Artist bass with Moog electronics. 8)
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yep, it's real

Post by edogg » Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:02 pm

I got to play on it for a bit at NAMM, and i was more than impressed. not one to be wowed very often, (and also not really a guitar player) the moog guitar did all sorts of magical stuff that i've always wanted to be able to do. (but all with no effects pedals)

it's quite awesome, and i'm glad we live in the future.

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Post by dr_floyd » Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:38 pm

Hi edogg.

Could you describe some of the "magical stuff" a little more?
For example, it seems all 6 guitar strings vibrate/sustain constantly when fretted. Is that what it's doing?
Was there some sort of filtering effect or harmonic generation happening? Was there an envelope generator on board?

Were you told not to mention the guitar? It has not been in the press anywhere since January.

I'd love to hear more details/opinions. Thanks.

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Post by llamastorm » Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:21 pm

Ugh, still up on April 2.

Guitars are kind of overrated to me.

Need ... new ... musical ... revolution.

(I agree with a post on Matrixsynth... how about affordable 4+ voice analog synths? Or how about new entirely uninvented forms of MIDI controllers? Bigger badder untamed effects boxes? (Ok, not bigger!) Drum machines from outer space... really crazy awesome sequencers (Octopus is waaaay overpriced), etc)

And whatever it is, it needs lots of blinking lights.

And lasers.

Admittedly though, guitars sell. Darn it.

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Post by EricK » Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:39 pm

I found this info



11.24.06
Dear Moog Foundation,

"Kenny Bergle here from Sweetwater Sound. I have a good one for you.

At Summer NAMM 2000 (MIGHT have been '98 or '99 it was Nashville for sure), I
was meeting with Paul Reed Smith, the guitar maker. He was telling me a story
about how in the beginning of his company in the early '70s, he met with Bob
about doing an independent CV trigger for each guitar string so guitarist John
McLaughlin could have a different MiniMoog on each string. PRS was asking Bob
about a 6-voice polyphony Mini Moog synth so each string of the guitar would be
a separate trigger and possibly a separate sound.

So we're talking about it and Paul amongst the din of the NAMM floor says that
he heard that Bob had passed (one of many ugly rumors flying around NAMM that
year). I said, "Uh, no, I just was saying Hi to him at the Kurzweil booth
upstairs." Paul didn't believe me and insisted he had died. I took Paul by
the hand and marched him upstairs and re-introduced him to Bob. They stood and
talked awhile, Bob remembering the problems with the concept that Paul had
offered for McLaughlin and saying that now (then), of course, it was easy to
do. Back then it was all monophonic for Moog.

Later PRS wrote me to thank me for introducing him to Bob, he had wanted to meet
up with him again since their meeting in the early '70s and never had. Pretty
funny how close they were to inventing MIDI guitar back then, 15 years before
MIDI.

Thanks for the foundation, Bob was always nice to me specifically and of course,
made it easier for me to love the music industry in general. As soon as I get
some cash loose for it, I will donate to the Foundation. Please tell Mike
Adams that for me.

Sincerely,

Kenny"



I thought I saw some birds eye maple in one of those "excorcist" style subliminal shots. THe headstock looks neat. Im guessing it will probably be around 1200 though...watch.

At least it better not be a squire quality!

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Post by ColorForm2113 » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:10 am

i think i figured out the magic. Vox had a guitar in the 60s or 70s called the phantom and they had a limited run of them that had organ tone generators attached to the frets so as you fretted a chord the organ sound would come through and you could strum along or arppegiate or what have you. except this time instead of and organ tone its probably a vco tone.

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Post by rlainhart » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:44 am

The tone certainly doesn't sound synthesized to me - it's much more like the sound of vibrating strings driven by an EBow. The problem with that technology is that it's been impossible until now to get more than one string to sustain independently of the others. Heet Sound, the makers of the EBow, announced back in the late 70s that they were going to release a polyphonic EBow, but never did, no doubt because of this limitation.

I've always wanted a polyphonic infinitely sustainable guitar; if Moog has figured out how to do it, I'm all in favor of it.
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Nice job MOOG!

Post by trexcat » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:45 pm

If this were for real, and I had had a chance to try one of these recently, I would have written this... Obviously a very neat situation if you play guitar.... The pickup system could provide infinite sustain and variations, with a good range of control options and what I believe may be CV controlled harmonic overtones. Not really like any other guitar I may have ever played, although all the sounds were derived from the normal guitar strings and tone, which would make it even more amazing. Also, an onboard filter with CV control....?! @#^&!!

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Post by ColorForm2113 » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:59 pm

yea after listening to the video again, it doesnt sound like vcos. which i think is even more incredible, due to the fact that the sustain is so smooth.

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Post by prospect » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:28 pm

It reminds me of the Fernandez Sustainer guitars that had pickups that acted like ebows.

Guitar players are very picky (pun not intended) and i hope they offer this sustaining technology separately so you can install it in almost any guitar of your choosing.

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Post by Kevin Lightner » Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:06 am

If anyone buys the Moog guitar, I can offer a special on some beachfront mountain property in Montana.

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Post by ColorForm2113 » Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:27 am

Kevin Lightner wrote:If anyone buys the Moog guitar, I can offer a special on some beachfront mountain property in Montana.
SOLD!!! LMAO

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