Hi,
It is currently quite challenging for us who live in Europe, to find a used Voyager in good condition / price. Which product do you think could replace the ballsy mono sound of the Voyager in the best possible way nowadays?
Do you believe that something like a "new Voyager" might be missing from the current Moog catalog?
The Matriarch is described as a paraphonic or a "polysynth substitute" in most online conversations, putting it on a different perspective. Almost all the demos of it make heavy use of its delay and semi modular capabilities in ambient textures, totally forgetting the monophonic synth aspect of it.
Should we look in other products or companies to find that Voyager punch, bass, warmth and flexibility? What is your opinion?
Replacement for Moog Voyager
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Well, I would say: don't believe the online conversations and demos. If you want to use the Matriarch as a Voyager, it certainly will fulfill you expectations.
As far as sound, I haven't heard one but it seems it sounds as a Moog should sound.
On a side note, the Subsequent 37 is also a good candidate. It only lacks a third oscillator but the sub osc will suit some of the needs for the former.
As far as sound, I haven't heard one but it seems it sounds as a Moog should sound.
On a side note, the Subsequent 37 is also a good candidate. It only lacks a third oscillator but the sub osc will suit some of the needs for the former.
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Re: Replacement for Moog Voyager
Thank you for the suggestion.stiiiiiiive wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:22 am Well, I would say: don't believe the online conversations and demos. If you want to use the Matriarch as a Voyager, it certainly will fulfill you expectations.
As far as sound, I haven't heard one but it seems it sounds as a Moog should sound.
On a side note, the Subsequent 37 is also a good candidate. It only lacks a third oscillator but the sub osc will suit some of the needs for the former.
The Sub37 sounds totally different IMO. I don't think it comes close to the creamy and warm tone of a Voyager. I'm guessing that the sound of a Matriarch is a lot closer, but it seems that the Moog options end there and that's the reason I'd like to read more opinions about it.
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Was not sure whether you were talking mostly about sound, you are
About the Sub series, here is something interesting, I guess: their mixer is such as when the knob is after noon, it will start to distort. That means that keeping levels low leads to a different family of sounds, maybe closer to the Voyager's... and definitely, way less demo'ed on the internet.
That being said, I don't have a Sub to sell and I guess the Grand Mother and Matriarch will sound more like a V, just as you.
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About the Sub series, here is something interesting, I guess: their mixer is such as when the knob is after noon, it will start to distort. That means that keeping levels low leads to a different family of sounds, maybe closer to the Voyager's... and definitely, way less demo'ed on the internet.
That being said, I don't have a Sub to sell and I guess the Grand Mother and Matriarch will sound more like a V, just as you.
Anyone, get in!
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Re: Replacement for Moog Voyager
What about the MFB Dominion?
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The Voyager is a unique synth, maybe there isn't a suitable replacement.
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Re: Replacement for Moog Voyager
Moog would do well if they released an updated analog mono synth with saveable patches like the Voyager, but grittier sound/mixer/filter based on the older gear everyone lusts after
they could basically re-use the voyager, but replace the boards, and give us true stereo filters similar to the matriarch. More memory, faster processor, and some new mappable features too; maybe even patch points?
one thing that bugs me about the Voyager is the jump when you move a knob from a preset value: the Minitaur has a firmware option to smooth this out. It's my understanding the Voyager is maxxed out & there is no room in the OS to include that? anyway that would be a welcome feature IMO
they could basically re-use the voyager, but replace the boards, and give us true stereo filters similar to the matriarch. More memory, faster processor, and some new mappable features too; maybe even patch points?
one thing that bugs me about the Voyager is the jump when you move a knob from a preset value: the Minitaur has a firmware option to smooth this out. It's my understanding the Voyager is maxxed out & there is no room in the OS to include that? anyway that would be a welcome feature IMO