MoogProg wrote:Does it matter at all what any of us think about another persons "junk"? How is this law supposed to protect anyone? Let's explore the law from a practical standpoint and see how works, if it does at all.
As a prophylactic against rape, we hope this law will stop the criminal before they enter the restroom. How is that going to happen? Should we bodily accost overly masculine persons from entering? Should we notify the park ranger when we see large hands on a lady? Is this a license to publicly ridicule people based on their looks or dress, in the name of prevention? "Hey, you don't look like a girl. Are you?", The Good Samaritan asks.
How the heck is this law supposed to work anyway?
But yeah, let's talk about our feelings about other people around us when we pee in public. I was interrupting something important it seems. /s
Obviously the law cannot prevent rapists from entering bathrooms. It does at least allow women to express their concerns about male-bodied occupants without having to worry about being accused of "discrimination."
namahshaman wrote:Is anyone else just disappointed that we have so many Christian Bible-beaters in the synthesizer community? ...I mean, what a bummer. Particularly, since Christianity tends to pick and choose which science to accept, while steadily rejecting any science that refutes the claims of their holy book. Too often we're told that we have to respect everyones beliefs, but that's not necessarily true. Some people's beliefs convince them that it's okay to rape children, or suicide bomb innocent people, or blow up abortion clinics. Are we to respect these beliefs? Are we to respect the Westboro Baptist Church with all their bigotry and selective hatred?
After all, it's the 21st Century. We have access to all the information one would need to realize that the Bible is pure mythology. In fact, if you do enough research, you'll find that Christianity was originally a psychedelic mushroom fertility cult, in which Christ was actually a personified symbol of the mushroom itself. I know that's hard to swallow for some, but try doing the research before you instinctually reject it. In time, this information and more will become common knowledge.. to the point where only a fact-loathing Trump supporter would still believe in a literal interpretation of the mythological bible. It's very simple to understand this if you want, just eat 5 dried grams of psilocybin alone in silent darkness, and you'll see plenty.
Religion was a necessary tool of evolution to get humanity to a certain point, like feudalism and patriarchy, but now it is out-of-date and completely irrelevant to the modern world...like feudalism and patriarchy. Organized religion is the crutch of moral-barbarians, indirectly supporting Hobbes' claim that we need a social contract to keep the peace. If you're a full-grown adult and you need some ancient book or an invisible daddy in the clouds to keep your morality in check, then you may exhibit some sociopathic traits. A modern, healthy, educated human being does not need a religious practice to inform them that it is wrong to murder, rape, steal, cheat, and hurt others.
Assuming Jesus was real for a second, everything he said really makes the rest of the bible moot. The dude hung out with prostitutes and criminals and welcomed everyone regardless of their station or beliefs. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't give a damn about who was using which restroom. Oh, and if you really want to point to one or two cases where a rapist cross-dressed in order to go in a restroom and seize his victim, then you can't ignore the hundreds of thousands of children who've been repeatedly raped by priests, pastors, and youth ministers. If any organization should be completely shut down because of rape, murder, and abuse, it's the Church. Put the bible down for a second and read a proper history book. From the crusades and the inquisition to the raping priests and the hinderance of scientific progress, Christianity has committed more violent and immoral atrocities than all the atheists, agnostics, and LGBTQs combined.
I do not follow any organized religions, but generally find militant atheists even more unbearable than the faithful. They build up castles of scientism to protect their egos, and accuse anyone who questions their ideology or one of its pseudoscientific theories (e.g. Darwinian evolution, Marxism, transgenderism, relativity) of being an ignorant fundamentalist Christian who determines their beliefs solely based on what is said in the bible. The hypocrisy is glaring. You talk about how you don't have to "respect the beliefs" of some people, while that is the very crime of which you accuse the trans-critical: because they don't accept the claims of transgenderism, they are "bigots."
It's perfectly acceptable to talk about pedophilia within the Catholic Church, but try and talk about pedophilia within the Hassidic community; then you are an "antisemite."
Some pretty awful things have been done in the name of Christianity, but why doesn't anyone ever talk about the atrocities committed by the Marxist atheists of the Soviet Union? What about the tens of millions who died during the Holodomor, the purges, and in the gulags?
Struble wrote:I know many women who were assigned female at birth who do not mind sharing bathrooms with their transgender sisters. Why is it that their voice is never heard? Why is it that the vocal minority of bigotry wins out?
The law doesn't protect anyone. It's still perfectly legal for a cis man to enter a woman's restroom. All it does is stigmatize a group of the populace and uses fear mongering to act like something is being done about rape. It's not doing anything to truly combat the rape culture. It just creates a hypothetical situation and creates a "solution" for it. It's like why we have to take our shoes off in airports, because one guy pretended to have a bomb in his shoe. It doesn't solve a real problem, it just solves an imaginary one. It allows politicians to pat themselves on the back for truly doing nothing about rape and allows the right to persecute a group of people who hasn't gotten their equal rights yet.
And yes, I'm uncomfortable using public restrooms as a cis man in the men's room. And if I can be this uncomfortable, imagine how uncomfortable a trans woman would be forced into the same restroom as cis males. At least in the women's room, there is a small degree of privacy for everyone.
"Privacy for everyone"... except the women. Who cares about protecting the rights of over 50% of the population if a group that constitutes one third of one percent might get their feelings hurt? Your liberal friends don't care, so surely it is acceptable for all women? Transwomen do not insist on individual bathrooms but on access to women's bathrooms, because their safety is a less a concern than their need to have their "gender identity" validated.