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Re: Moog Music UK 90s Minimoog?

Post by EricK » Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:17 pm

Brian, was there any indication in your records as to what the Voyager might have been called in lieu of rights to use his own name?

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Re: Moog Music UK 90s Minimoog?

Post by MC » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:07 pm

Bob showed the prototype at the NAMM 2000 show back when he was still Big Briar. It was called the New Performance Synth. It did not have the touchpad or hinged tilted panel. I saw it there and still have a copy of the brochure.

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Pretty much all the basic elements were there. As it evolved into the Voyager and Bob won back the Moog trademark, they had a contest to name the synth.
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Re: Moog Music UK 90s Minimoog?

Post by thealien666 » Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:01 pm

That looks pretty much like a Voyager Old School. So MIDI and a CPU, as well as a touch pad, weren't on Bob's mind when he designed this prototype. I've always said that presets are for the weak... :lol:
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Re: Moog Music UK 90s Minimoog?

Post by EricK » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:10 pm

I didn't even think about that prototype. I saw that above the door when I did my factory tour a few years ago.

"New Performance Synth" isn't very catchy.
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Re: Moog Music UK 90s Minimoog?

Post by museslave » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:12 pm

MC wrote:Bob showed the prototype at the NAMM 2000 show back when he was still Big Briar. It was called the New Performance Synth. It did not have the touchpad or hinged tilted panel. I saw it there and still have a copy of the brochure.

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Pretty much all the basic elements were there. As it evolved into the Voyager and Bob won back the Moog trademark, they had a contest to name the synth.


Weirdly, there is a prototype in the Bob Moog archives that would seem to be earlier than that, and DOES have a hinged tilted panel.

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Re: Moog Music UK 90s Minimoog?

Post by thealien666 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:18 am

You mean, this fake thing ?

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Re: Moog Music UK 90s Minimoog?

Post by CZ Rider » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:25 am

Looks like more of a test fixture than a fake or prototype.
Photo with Bob and the same Voyager test fixture.
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Another pic of the early prototype shown at winter NAMM 2000. (Non-working.)
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And a photo of the same proto missing parts.
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That early mock-up/prototype shows envelopes like the Mini D with ADS and was later changed to the ADSR type. The original idea does not look to be digital controlled like the production Voyager. Lots of speculation surrounding the announcement back in 2000 when Big Briar announced the "New Performance Synthesizer".
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Different touch screen type/brand, and was changed.

The fake looking prototype was the Phatty one.
Looked like someone just sat the standard production front panel circuit board in front of Bob's original two oscillator prototype.
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Re: Moog Music UK 90s Minimoog?

Post by nicholas d. kent » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:56 am

EricK wrote:Brian, was there any indication in your records as to what the Voyager might have been called in lieu of rights to use his own name?

Eric


When Bob regained legal title in the USA, he officially stopped using Big Briar. That said if you look at early Moogerfoogers, the front panel in direct view has Bob Moog's signature, not Big Briar, which was less prominent on the back. A Moog logo later replaced the signature on the Moog Music branded moogerfoogers.

But your question was answered in real life -

The Voyager was initially re-branded "Voyager by Bob Moog" in the UK because of the trademark issue was not resolved when initially released. It had a modified version of the OS since the regular startup screen says "Moog Music" and "Minimoog", definitely a reprinted user manual, likely altered boxes, who knows what else.

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Re: Moog Music UK 90s Minimoog?

Post by thealien666 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:01 pm

I seem to remember something about a contest, back in the late '90 early 2000, for selecting the name of the future synth that was to become the Voyager ? Am I right about this ?
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Re: Moog Music UK 90s Minimoog?

Post by megavoice » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:15 pm

thealien666 wrote:..... I've always said that presets are for the weak... :lol:


Often yeah ! :lol: But not at every time:
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Re: Moog Music UK 90s Minimoog?

Post by EricK » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:45 pm

CZ Rider wrote:And a photo of the same proto missing parts.
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This is the pic I took in Asheville when I visited the factory.
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Re: Moog Music UK 90s Minimoog?

Post by CZ Rider » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:00 pm

Thanks for the pic EricK! :D Probably found it here on the forum.
That does look like it was scavenged for parts. A few knobs missing and the pitch/mod wheel gone. Might not have ever worked? Not sure if there are electronics or just a mock up to show at NAMM 2000. Would be great to see a higher resolution of the front panel to see what changed. There was talk of a 2/4 pole filter switch and selectable white/pink noise.
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Re: Moog Music UK 90s Minimoog?

Post by EricK » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:33 pm

Yeah I shot that on the only camera we had at the time, but we're shooting full frame now. I wish it was better resolution. Maybe next time.

I think i remember reading somewhere that there was never anything inside it. MC will probably chime in on this one when he sees it.

There was one forum member who had in his signature line something like "The guy who submitted the name Voyager to the 'name the new synth contest and got nothing to show for it.'"
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Re: Moog Music UK 90s Minimoog?

Post by unfiltered37 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:31 pm

MC wrote:Image


That looks curiously like the Analogue Solutions Leipzig.

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Re: Moog Music UK 90s Minimoog?

Post by thealien666 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:43 pm

unfiltered37 wrote:
That looks curiously like the Analogue Solutions Leipzig.



Meh, maybe a little ?
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