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Moog Werkstatt

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:24 pm
by voguemachine
I'm not sure if any of this has spilled onto this forum yet, if it has I apologize.

Moog has posted a few instagram photos of their "werkstatt" project, the
"custom unreleased synthesizer" for the engineer tickets at moogfest.

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Think these will be available as kits to us unavailable to attend?
that would be great...

-VM

Re: Moog Werkstatt

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:16 am
by dvalladt
They posted a more realised picture today:

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Re: Moog Werkstatt

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:46 am
by EMwhite
Forget about the MS-20 'kit'; if they sell this at reasonable price, they will sell hundreds if not thousands of units ...

Every kid with a Euro or CV controlled synth will want one ...

Re: Moog Werkstatt

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:30 pm
by Kenneth
The Moogertron

Re: Moog Werkstatt

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:01 pm
by misterpete
What are we looking at? Do the CV i/o look like 3.5mm euro style mini jacks to you?

Re: Moog Werkstatt

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:14 pm
by _DemonDan_
misterpete wrote:What are we looking at? Do the CV i/o look like 3.5mm euro style mini jacks to you?

To me they look like holes to insert solid bare wire, solder-tinned wire strands, or a thin probe.

Re: Moog Werkstatt

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:36 pm
by Vsyevolod
I see something that looks like a 20 pin female connector jack. Either that or a pin jack I/O.

Stephen




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Re: Moog Werkstatt

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:55 pm
by latigid on
It's a 100 mil header socket. You would patch it with breadboard cables:

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Re: Moog Werkstatt

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:48 am
by wacopacco
I think this is just for moogfest. If they did a production run I'm sure they would use 1/8 cables for the patching.

This kind of thing is something is love to see moog try. Well, this and a prodigy again.

Re: Moog Werkstatt

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:55 am
by latigid on
I hope they never use 1/8th inch cables, too many incompatibility issues. I'd be okay with 3.5 mm for Eurorack patching mayhem :) .

Re: Moog Werkstatt

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:47 am
by EMwhite
Could just be a small PCB with a header on the bottom and a row of broken out mini jacks on top; FWIW, the Euro crowd is about 20x the MU / MOTM market if you count @sses in seats and not revenue; if you count the sale of all Moog synths which take 1/4" as part of MU, then maybe you're even as there have been 100,000 units sold, counting all modern Moog synths and all Foogers (guessing).

So offer a minijack or a 1/4" adapter to plug in there and now you've got something. Sell it for cost + round up to next $50 and sell direct and you've got 1000 unit's sold easy. Call it macaroni (or $149). What kid wouldn't want a control panel wired up to their Euro rig with the most common set of hands on controls right there including transpose adjustment of a sequence or drone that may be running elsewhere via pushbutton pitch-board.

Or sell it without case, no power supply or add-on (just the board) for $99, no support unless DOA (30 day). I'd buy that.

Gotta figure, the least expensive MoogerFooger has more components, comes in fancy steel pedal w/PS, wood ends, calibrated, etc and street is $280. Take out the retailer mark-up and overhead and this is doable in my estimation.

( yes, I'm an armchair product manager :D )

Re: Moog Werkstatt

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:14 am
by wacopacco
latigid on wrote:I hope they never use 1/8th inch cables, too many incompatibility issues. I'd be okay with 3.5 mm for Eurorack patching mayhem :) .

A lot of eurorack's have 1/8th, but it's just a preference thing at that point.

I wonder if it could use a card, like the music easel?

Re: Moog Werkstatt

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:28 am
by latigid on
wacopacco wrote:A lot of eurorack's have 1/8th, but it's just a preference thing at that point.



My subtle dig there was that 1/8 inch = 3.175 mm, whereas the Eurorack "minijack" standard is 3.5 mm. Just like 1/4 inch is 6.35 mm. Anyhoo...




wacopacco wrote:I wonder if it could use a card, like the music easel?



No problem, just solder some male headers to this and you're good to go:


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http://www.dallaslogic.com/prod_cmp1001.htm



You could make a few different "patches" like this, just as the Easel does.

Re: Moog Werkstatt

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:12 am
by latigid on
Btw, this is not going to be geared towards a soldering-type kit. Way too much SMT for that. I'd guess you would basically assemble the case and calibrate it.

Moogfest starts today so we will know soon!

Re: Moog Werkstatt

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:13 pm
by EricK
There's this video of the workshop...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI17qAYs4xM