A fully analog sequencer from Moog - that's what I want.

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Re: A fully analog sequencer from Moog - that's what I want.

Post by EricK » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:38 am

The only thing I would add to the list of demands for making the 960 totally suitable for the modern age is that it also contains:
Programmable tempo changes
A healthy patch memory
A bar counter
Midi syncable
Clock division

But for 8 grand you can get 10 q960s. That way you can sequence your sequences while you are sequencing. (Thanks AJ)
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Re: A fully analog sequencer from Moog - that's what I want.

Post by latigid on » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:50 am

Looks like the price is enough to put off OP ;)

But I would ask: what do you expect from CMOS that can't be done with a digital control system? After all, digital is just sending regular packets of info much like a 960. What happens if you then want to quantize your CVs to a musical scale? Now it's under digital control again (Q171). Eric's suggestions would be difficult to implement in the analogue realm.

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Re: A fully analog sequencer from Moog - that's what I want.

Post by deadhedgehog » Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:09 am

I miss the possibility of building sequences using gate in irregular numbers of steps, such as prime numbers. I think the obsession with 8 steps is all wrong. Or is this functionality available already?

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Re: A fully analog sequencer from Moog - that's what I want.

Post by EricK » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:56 am

You have up to 24 stages with a 960 which you can program to skip or reset anything between 1-8 on whichever row is active. Depending on the number of sequencers you have you can get some complex polyrhythms. Combine this with other modules which can generate or delay gate signals and you can make even more interesting variations.

8 was probably chosen to conform easily with 4/4 time, but different meters are possible.
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Re: A fully analog sequencer from Moog - that's what I want.

Post by mattyp » Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:57 am

I know its not analog but the arturia beatstep pro looks pretty interesting. Shame it don't do hz/oct too then it would be ideal for both moogs and korg ms20. Oh well might have to get the korg sq1 aswell
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Re: A fully analog sequencer from Moog - that's what I want.

Post by c7sus » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:40 am

Saw a vid last night of a dotcom 960 with a COTK c961s and it was amazing!

I have a major jones for a Box 22S and the COTK. Anybody here know if dotcom power supplies work with COTK?
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Re: A fully analog sequencer from Moog - that's what I want.

Post by EricK » Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:54 am

Pretty sure COTK can work on dotcom power.
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Re: A fully analog sequencer from Moog - that's what I want.

Post by c7sus » Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:19 am

Was looking at the COTK site last night and their power supplies have a dedicated dotcom Molex output.

They don't seem to list the specific power requirements for the C961S.
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Re: A fully analog sequencer from Moog - that's what I want.

Post by EMwhite » Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:23 pm

COTK: It depends on the module and when it was manufactured.

The earliest COTK modules required dedicated (IDC ribbon type) power and could support the differential 12 or 15 volt standard. His power bus had (and still has) jumpers to support this as far back to 2005 (at least). Now, just as MOS-LAB are doing, the BUS power distribution modules have 6 pin MTA headers specifically for dotcom. In some cases it may seem attractive to plug it in once but if you've got anything more than just a small handful of modules, may as well nab a dedicated power supply for $80; there is something dreadfully wrong with powering a dozen modules through one lead of a dotcom squid and shared 22 gauge wiring.

I have a 911p which was manufactured in mid 2013 and it's got DOTCOM power onboard and he will build them this way by request (the footprint for both power headers exists on all of the new boards and he'll populate as required by order).

Many/most of COTK are powered by microcontrollers such as the Atmel 8-16PU. And they require +5V power typically but, it's rectified on the module itself so from the supply to the distribution board and to the modules, as far as I'm aware it's only the +15/-15 (or +12/-12).

But yeah, the 961S kicks arse. It gives a q960 modes which did not exist prior like 'random' and ping pong, etc. I believe you are referring to JLR's excellent demo. The fact that he custom cut each patch cable to size is reason enough to give his video props.
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Re: A fully analog sequencer from Moog - that's what I want.

Post by c7sus » Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:39 pm

Thanks for that very useful information. The more I look into modular the more my head spins. Was really set on a Sub37 but the possibilities of modular have taken over!
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