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My desire, the evolution of the Sub Phatty...

Post by eXode » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:57 pm

I'd like to see a synth from Moog that takes the features of the Sub Phatty, replacing the sub-osc with a full 3rd oscillator, and in a housing that carries the original Little Phatty keybed.

Priced at $1700 USD or so.

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Re: My desire, the evolution of the Sub Phatty...

Post by MC » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:35 pm

They could call it the Trans Phatty
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Re: My desire, the evolution of the Sub Phatty...

Post by Bald Eagle » Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:04 pm

That would make a nice addition to their product line. Also would make room for more knobs.

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Re: My desire, the evolution of the Sub Phatty...

Post by nuno » Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:00 pm

Bald Eagle wrote:more knobs.
+ CV patch points

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Re: My desire, the evolution of the Sub Phatty...

Post by kslight » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:49 pm

From a business standpoint, why would Moog make a drastically cheaper Voyager competitor and Little Phatty snuffer, especially at the same time?

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Re: My desire, the evolution of the Sub Phatty...

Post by unfiltered37 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:58 pm

really? $1700? as long as we are dreaming, why not make it free? Like to add a bit of realism to your fantasies to make them more real? I guess that makes sense. But I would make it a modular subphatty with cv points on each oscillator and sub oscillator module (20 total), as well as both "saturated phatty" filters, double 88 key manual with touch keys, cv sensors on all 10 fingers and toes as well as EEG electrodes for the brain control, a dick theremin, multiple drink holders, and of course side airbags.

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Re: My desire, the evolution of the Sub Phatty...

Post by EricK » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:31 pm

My sandwich almost hit the ceiling on the theremin comment.


Take the sub phatty and add a slew of cv ins and outs, throw the midi out the door, and add a Pratt-Reed keyboard.
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Re: My desire, the evolution of the Sub Phatty...

Post by Kevin Lightner » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:11 pm

EricK wrote:and add a Pratt-Reed keyboard.


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Re: My desire, the evolution of the Sub Phatty...

Post by ColorForm2113 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:46 pm

Sounds like you (op) need to get a voyager old school and an mf drive (no where near $1700 though)
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Re: My desire, the evolution of the Sub Phatty...

Post by eXode » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:52 am

Erm, seriously. Why all the flak?

Some points (in no specific order)

1. The Sub Phatty is $999 USD on Sweetwater.com. How is $1700 "too cheap" for one extra VCO and a slightly larger keyboard?
2. The Voyager has two filters, The Sub Phatty has one.
3. The Voyager is arguable made of higher grade material.
4. The Voyager has a more advanced interface (touch X/Y, etc) pad.
5. The Voyager has a larger Mod Bus with more options.
6. The Voyager has a larger keyboard than both the Sub, and Little Phatty.
7. The Sub Phatty has a mixer with traits from the original Mini Model D, the Voyager not so much.
8. The Voyager filter freq knob is capped at 12 kHz, The Sub Phatty goes to at least 20 kHz (as does the older Moog).

Making comments about pricing and comparisons to Voyager make me question your actual knowledge of the two synths structure. I know the Voyager, and I'm sad to say that I don't like it or the Little Phatty for it's darker character (see filter cap point again) compared to the older Moog's (or the Sub Phatty), I also happen to like the saturating mixer of the original Mini D that the Sub Phatty has (or is inspired by). But hey, thanks for trying to show me my place! :D
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Re: My desire, the evolution of the Sub Phatty...

Post by thealien666 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:33 pm

eXode wrote:8. The Voyager filter is capped at 12 kHz...



Not.

If you offset it with something, like an envelope or LFO, it goes to 20 KHz and a little more.

If you meant that the Cutoff Knob caps it to 12 KHz then you would be right.
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Re: My desire, the evolution of the Sub Phatty...

Post by eXode » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:40 pm

thealien666 wrote:If you meant that the Cutoff Knob caps it to 12 KHz then you would be right.


Yes, I've clarified this in my original post. Cheers! :)

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Re: My desire, the evolution of the Sub Phatty...

Post by thealien666 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:46 pm

BTW, the filter cutoff goes to 38 KHz (measured) on my 1975 Minimoog D. Useless, but fun to know...and to make the neighbor's dog bark, when the filter is brought into self-oscillation at those frequencies ! :mrgreen:

(also dangerous to bust tweeters very easily, too ! :oops: ) :wink:
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Re: My desire, the evolution of the Sub Phatty...

Post by GovernorSilver » Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:57 pm

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Post by eXode » Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:15 pm

GovernorSilver wrote:Image


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