Stumbled across an all original Model D, which hadn't been touched in decades. Bought it immediately.
I am primarily a sequencer user, so getting this thing connected to either Ableton or my MPC3000 would be great, and I can afford the Lintronics MIDI Converter, BUT. . . I also don't want to damage something that has real historical value, just to make my life a little easier.
What is the Moog community's wisdom on this decision? Are there enough of these things in existence that it isn't wrong to add a useful mod like the LMC?
Just got Model D #547x and need advice.
Re: Just got Model D #547x and need advice.
It's up to the end user, really.
Drilling holes to put a MIDI interface was more of a 90's thing. Back then there were not as many options as there are today in a MIDI to CV converter.
I would look at some of the standalone MIDI to CV converters out there. These could be used on any mono synth with the proper CV inputs. That makes the MIDI converter more valuable as you can use it on more than just the one mono synth.
Right now I have a Kenton Pro Solo Mk2. I can MIDI any mono synth with that, from a Moog Modular to a Korg MS-20. If the MIDI converter was built in, I could only use it with that synth, and that synth would not be original and could loose value because it is modded..
Drilling holes to put a MIDI interface was more of a 90's thing. Back then there were not as many options as there are today in a MIDI to CV converter.
I would look at some of the standalone MIDI to CV converters out there. These could be used on any mono synth with the proper CV inputs. That makes the MIDI converter more valuable as you can use it on more than just the one mono synth.
Right now I have a Kenton Pro Solo Mk2. I can MIDI any mono synth with that, from a Moog Modular to a Korg MS-20. If the MIDI converter was built in, I could only use it with that synth, and that synth would not be original and could loose value because it is modded..
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Re: Just got Model D #547x and need advice.
Thanks for the detailed feedback, CZ!
I actually just ordered a Pro-Solo MkII, earlier this week, to use with a Sequential Circuits Pro-One, but I read a comment somewhere online yesterday that the Pro-Solo doesn't do Glide on Minimoog and recommending an internal mod. I would be overjoyed to learn that claim is wrong, and so I have no good reason to butcher this beautiful synth
I actually just ordered a Pro-Solo MkII, earlier this week, to use with a Sequential Circuits Pro-One, but I read a comment somewhere online yesterday that the Pro-Solo doesn't do Glide on Minimoog and recommending an internal mod. I would be overjoyed to learn that claim is wrong, and so I have no good reason to butcher this beautiful synth
Re: Just got Model D #547x and need advice.
I have the LMC in my model D and I love it.
The only new holes are on the rear panel, one for MIDI out and one for noise/LFO selection. No new holes on the front panel.
It's a VERY worthy addition to a model D.
The only new holes are on the rear panel, one for MIDI out and one for noise/LFO selection. No new holes on the front panel.
It's a VERY worthy addition to a model D.
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Re: Just got Model D #547x and need advice.
You'll still have to mod the Mini to use an external MIDI to CV converter.
The external OSC CV input only ADDS to the keyboard voltage and that voltage will drift when no keys are pressed.
If you keep a key down, it'll stay in tune, but then it won't respond to external triggers.
So no matter what, if you want it to play like an in-tune sound module, you'll need a tech to modify.
I also sell a device for adding MIDI in (and out), but its primary purpose is to replace the key contacts with frictionless optical contacts.
Even so, my converter doesn't offer all the options an LMC does.
Bottom line, expect to either retune the Mini often or get it modded properly for external CV and gate inputs.
The external OSC CV input only ADDS to the keyboard voltage and that voltage will drift when no keys are pressed.
If you keep a key down, it'll stay in tune, but then it won't respond to external triggers.
So no matter what, if you want it to play like an in-tune sound module, you'll need a tech to modify.
I also sell a device for adding MIDI in (and out), but its primary purpose is to replace the key contacts with frictionless optical contacts.
Even so, my converter doesn't offer all the options an LMC does.
Bottom line, expect to either retune the Mini often or get it modded properly for external CV and gate inputs.
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Re: Just got Model D #547x and need advice.
That's one of the things that I really like about your Opto-Key, Kevin. It's completely "transparent" and keeps the Mini intact.
And since the Minimoog was designed some twelve years before MIDI, it's not suprising that it's not easy to add it to it.
And since the Minimoog was designed some twelve years before MIDI, it's not suprising that it's not easy to add it to it.
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Re: Just got Model D #547x and need advice.
With the serial number under #6000, doesn't it need a buffer board added, just for general use? A factory mod that I find very worthwhile on any older Minimoog....
Re: Just got Model D #547x and need advice.
I understand what you mean about not wanting to modify the instrument due to it's historical value.
I recently got my fathers Rhodes restored and was thinking about having an FX loop inserted in the preamp. My father and I were hesitant at first for the same reason as you, but ultimately it came down to practicality. It's a musical tool and anything to enhance it's ability to do it's job is worth it. Since I never plan to sell it, and the modification was already implemented on later units, and because the engineer was going to make it look like the mod came from the factory, we decided to get it installed. It now performs better than it did when it left the factory and I have an enhanced tool to work with.
As long as you can get the mod professionally installed, I don't think it would hurt the value.
Good luck!
Eric
I recently got my fathers Rhodes restored and was thinking about having an FX loop inserted in the preamp. My father and I were hesitant at first for the same reason as you, but ultimately it came down to practicality. It's a musical tool and anything to enhance it's ability to do it's job is worth it. Since I never plan to sell it, and the modification was already implemented on later units, and because the engineer was going to make it look like the mod came from the factory, we decided to get it installed. It now performs better than it did when it left the factory and I have an enhanced tool to work with.
As long as you can get the mod professionally installed, I don't think it would hurt the value.
Good luck!
Eric
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Re: Just got Model D #547x and need advice.
As the serial number is under #6000 - doesn't it need an octave buffer installed?
That modification is factory-done on Minimoogs above #6000 as I recall, and can be seen on the top edge as two small screws behind the upper wood strip. I know Kevin Lightner has some of these kits, and they don't ruin any of the old Mini qualities, they just help it stay in tune when changing octaves... a great thing.
That modification is factory-done on Minimoogs above #6000 as I recall, and can be seen on the top edge as two small screws behind the upper wood strip. I know Kevin Lightner has some of these kits, and they don't ruin any of the old Mini qualities, they just help it stay in tune when changing octaves... a great thing.