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950 Keyboard circuit

Post by analogmonster » Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:09 pm

Hi,

a question concerning the maximum trigger pulse length of the 950 circuit: How long does it last? Does anybody know that (Perhaps Kevin :) )? The internal trigger pulse length of my Prodigy (measured at the 556 dual timer) has a duration of about 2 seconds (maximum of course).

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Re: 950 Keyboard circuit

Post by Kevin Lightner » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:06 pm

Although I understand pulsewidths, I have no idea what you're talking about.
The pulsewidth of a 950 keyboard is how long one holds down a key.
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Re: 950 Keyboard circuit

Post by thealien666 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:10 pm

In looking at the schematics of the 950, I'm not sure what you are asking about :?:

The trigger will last for as long as a key is held down.

EDIT Ooops, Kevin and I replied at the exact same time, with the same answer... :lol:
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Re: 950 Keyboard circuit

Post by thealien666 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:34 pm

When looking at the Prodigy schematics I've noticed that, on that synth, the envelopes are made up of a timer (556) and a CD4007 for the different portions of the cycle. And that the cycle is started with a 200 microseconds drop to 0 volt as a trigger signal to the timer, when a key is depressed.

Completely different implementation than the 950 keyboard and 911 envelope generator of the Moog modular system, which uses a continuous trigger signal from the keyboard for sustain and a discrete flip-flop for the different envelope stages. No timer there.
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Re: 950 Keyboard circuit

Post by Kevin Lightner » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:09 pm

Regardless of trigger style, the Prodigy still uses a signal that remains as long as one holds down a key.
Call it a gate or trigger as you like. :)
There would be no control over sustain otherwise.
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Re: 950 Keyboard circuit

Post by thealien666 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:30 pm

Ooookay. You're right. It's logical.

I don't quite get the use of a timer, then... ? As a flip flop ?
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Re: 950 Keyboard circuit

Post by analogmonster » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:11 am

Ok, it was a silly question. I was mislead by the expression"trigger", as for me this is a rather short pulse. On the other hand a signal which lasts as long as a key is pressed I know as "gate". But of course a keyboard provides the information how long a key is pressed, also a 950.
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