Bring back the Moog Modular
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Re: Bring back the Moog Modular
Essentially, part of what Kevin is proposing is similar to what is being done with DSP technology in some effect pedals today (for example Strymon). The same exact chip in different pedals that perform different audio effects. Same PCB in each of them.
But in combination with (or only using) analog ASIC (application specific integrated circuit, ie chips that can be built to perform different functions depending on the mask used when making them) instead of only Digital Signal Processor. Greatly reducing the cost of having different printed circuit boards designed and produced for every different module.
But I wonder what would be the cost of having a specialized chip building company create custom ASIC in moderate quantities ?
But in combination with (or only using) analog ASIC (application specific integrated circuit, ie chips that can be built to perform different functions depending on the mask used when making them) instead of only Digital Signal Processor. Greatly reducing the cost of having different printed circuit boards designed and produced for every different module.
But I wonder what would be the cost of having a specialized chip building company create custom ASIC in moderate quantities ?
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Re: Bring back the Moog Modular
It's a safe bet that Don Buchla might had thought of the same thing...!Kevin Lightner wrote:How about this for a nutty idea?
<snip, shear, chop>
I know, crazy and complex idea.
Sort of a cross between a standard modular and a programmable Arp 2500 or Buchla 200e.
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Re: Bring back the Moog Modular
"I want a Moog modular, even if it sounds nothing like a modern Moog or vintage Moog modular, so that it can be inexpensive?"
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Re: Bring back the Moog Modular
alesis had some experience with that in the a6 i guess..thealien666 wrote:
But I wonder what would be the cost of having a specialized chip building company create custom ASIC in moderate quantities ?
i'd love to have a moog modular
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It the case of Alesis, since they were making their own chips in their own facilities (now called Wavefront), they must have saved some money there. But the astronomical cost of the development of the A6 also played a big part in bringing the company to bankruptcy before it was bought back by Jack O'Donnell, who owns Numark and Akai Professional. Even though Alesis kept making and selling the A6 after the company was saved, it never completely recovered the money invested in the project.sunny pedaal wrote:alesis had some experience with that in the a6 i guess..thealien666 wrote:
But I wonder what would be the cost of having a specialized chip building company create custom ASIC in moderate quantities ?
i'd love to have a moog modular
Somewhat similar to what happened to Moog Music when it was bought back by Norlin (who owned many other brands of musical equipment and instruments) back in the seventies. The development of the Polymoog, which didn't sell well, played a big part in bringing the company down with it (but not the only reason).
So maybe that is part of the reasons why the current Moog Music Inc company is hesitant to dive into either a polyphonic Moog or a Modular Moog...? Is there a big enough market for them out there, to justify the enormous development and production costs, considering their overhead, outsourcing and all that, as Amos mentioned earlier ?
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Re: Bring back the Moog Modular
i understand.
the slim phatty comes close already though.
a box to put in 8 of them + only one front....
sorry to keep dreaming.
but surely, i'm glad some people look after the continuity of the company indeed
better one moog in the hand then an 8voice in the sky ( ol' dutch saying)
the slim phatty comes close already though.
a box to put in 8 of them + only one front....
sorry to keep dreaming.
but surely, i'm glad some people look after the continuity of the company indeed
better one moog in the hand then an 8voice in the sky ( ol' dutch saying)
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Re: Bring back the Moog Modular
Wait.. There's a dutch saying about having Moog around vs having an 8-Voice Polysynth?sunny pedaal wrote:better one moog in the hand then an 8voice in the sky ( ol' dutch saying)
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Re: Bring back the Moog Modular
Yes...yes there is. There is because sunny said so, and he would know.David Smyth wrote:Wait.. There's a dutch saying about having Moog around vs having an 8-Voice Polysynth?sunny pedaal wrote:better one moog in the hand then an 8voice in the sky ( ol' dutch saying)
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Re: Bring back the Moog Modular
What would people from the Netherlands know about the Dutch?
Re: Bring back the Moog Modular
From Wikipedia: Kingdom of the Netherlands, located mainly in North-West Europe and with several islands in the Caribbean. Mainland Netherlands borders the North Sea to the north and west, Belgium to the south, and Germany to the east, and shares maritime borders[7] with Belgium, Germany and the United Kingdom. It is a parliamentary democracy organised as a unitary state. The country capital is Amsterdam and the seat of government is The Hague.[8] The Netherlands in its entirety is often referred to as Holland, although North and South Holland are actually only two of its twelve provinces (a case of pars pro toto; see terminology of "the Netherlands").unfiltered37 wrote:What would people from the Netherlands know about the Dutch?
So, gee, it would appear people from the Netherlands would not know ANYTHING about the Dutch. :sarcasm:
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Re: Bring back the Moog Modular
Good one Voltor07 !
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Re: Bring back the Moog Modular
Sometimes it amazes me how some people can graduate high school without a basic grasp of geography.
Better one Moog in the hand than an 8-voice in the sky, as the Dutch say.
Better one Moog in the hand than an 8-voice in the sky, as the Dutch say.
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Re: Bring back the Moog Modular
What would people from Holland know about the Netherlands or the Dutch?
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everybody knows about the dutch :
( British Tourist John Dowie ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXec_RCWNII
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Re: Bring back the Moog Modular
Mmmm, not really because:thealien666 wrote: Good one Voltor07 !
A/ He didnt really get unfiltereds comment
B/ the text about the Netherlands doesnt even contain the word "Dutch". So even though he didn't understand the witty comment, he still gives no explanation.
Not such a good one after all eh ?
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