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Bring back the Moog Modular

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:08 pm
by mrslig100
Nuff said...

Re: Bring back the Moog Modular

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:28 pm
by thealien666
FWIW, if Moog ever decide to embark on the modular bandwagon, their module prices would probably be prohibitive compared to existing companies.
Just look at their 500 Series filter... $850 !!! :shock: :roll:
Nuff said, indeed.

Re: Bring back the Moog Modular

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:35 pm
by museslave
The 500 Series filter is not a modular synth module.
One could also say "Moog's prices would be reasonable... look at the MF-101." :D

Re: Bring back the Moog Modular

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:41 pm
by thealien666
museslave wrote:The 500 Series filter is not a modular synth module.
I never said it was... It was just an example.
One could also say "Moog's prices would be reasonable... look at the MF-101." :D
Maybe. But then, why doesn't Moog produce their own modular version of it ? Not commercially viable, probably. :?:

Re: Bring back the Moog Modular

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:55 pm
by unfiltered37
That's a crazy idea, can't believe no one has thought of it before. Or how about this: a Moog polysynth!

Re: Bring back the Moog Modular

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:09 pm
by diddi_jo
:lol:
unfiltered37 wrote:That's a crazy idea, can't believe no one has thought of it before. Or how about this: a Moog polysynth!

Re: Bring back the Moog Modular

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:45 pm
by thealien666
I have a very strong feeling of déjà vu... Hmm.. :twisted:

Re: Bring back the Moog Modular

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:08 pm
by MC
I have a very strong feeling that a roundhouse kick from Chuck Norris is forthcoming...

Re: Bring back the Moog Modular

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:37 pm
by LivePsy
How come other manufacturers can make a living from making modular??? Why not Moog?

Perfectly ligitimate questions,
B

Re: Bring back the Moog Modular

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:13 pm
by thealien666
LivePsy wrote:How come other manufacturers can make a living from making modular??? Why not Moog?

Perfectly ligitimate questions,
B
Maybe you could send a personal email to Mike Adams about it ?

Re: Bring back the Moog Modular

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:16 pm
by unfiltered37
It is a legit query, but asked and answered many times. It's a non-starter.

Re: Bring back the Moog Modular

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:17 pm
by LivePsy
I'm not asking Moog to make a modular, I'm asking what reasons they have for not making them. I understand that these posts are mostly to display interest in a modular from Moog. If this subject turns up frequently should be a FAQ on the moog site.

If I wanted a modular, I'd be thinking Analogue Systems myself, so I'm not a potential customer.

Cheers,
B

Re: Bring back the Moog Modular

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:00 am
by unfiltered37
Why analogue systems rather than doepfer or serge or what not?

There isn't mass appeal for modulars these days. Musicians usually want something simple and fast to start creating music. People who want modulars are usually seasoned synth users. The musicians I have talked to who are uninitiated usually want something with presets and polyphonic capability. Even the voyager can be intimidating to a new synthesist. And people mistakenly think monophonic synths are limited, so many will go for software instead.

My idea is that someone needs to make a modular analog synth with all digitally controlled patching and presets, yet the highest quality discrete analog audio path.

Re: Bring back the Moog Modular

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:54 am
by EricK
It should be noted that the 500 Series module is about a high midrange price compared to some of the other modules out there of the same series.

Re: Bring back the Moog Modular

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:29 am
by MC
Back in the early days, the biggest market for modulars were colleges and upscale grade schools. That market no longer exists.

With the educational market gone, modulars have very limited market appeal these days because of lack of patch storage/recall (with the exception of Buchla 200e) and the demands it puts on the programmer. Yes they are powerful machines. But a novice user or preset surfer is going to be frustrated with them very quickly. They are very difficult to use for live performance and are thus best relegated to studios.

Look at the limited editions that Moog has made (Taurus, MF104, MF108). There was never a production run of less than 1000 units. That's the quantity they need to justify building these things. Changing tooling (PC board stuffers, case fabrication, etc) is expensive for smaller quantities. I don't think there were more than a couple hundred Macbeth M5s built. There just isn't enough demand to justify the expense.

Hate to rain on the parade, but the reality of the market economy does sometimes suck.