I’m either getting a Voyager with slew rate mod, 1V/oct calibration plus a VX-351 or a SUB 37 plus a few Strymon pedals (Big Sky and TimeLine) with money to spare. I have a MF-102 Ring Mod which feels useless unless I get a Voyager or some DAW to CV plugin using DC outs on DA converters which I don’t have.
My setup is mostly ITB but I have a DSI P08 PE and an Eventide Space. I’m basically looking to get a easily programmable Moog mono with big sound. Recently sold a Slim Phatty because there was too much under the hood stuff (plus slimy buttons and wobbly pots didn’t help) and a Sub Phatty with too much hidden controls. The Voyager feels great in every way but has some stuff under the hood, basically like a Sub Phatty plus a display but the 37 has almost everything on the surface plus an arpeggiator, however there no CV outs (silly silly Moog).
If you disregard the looks of the Voyager as well as the wood, keys, analog VCA’s and sturdy build quality, what is it about it that makes it better than the Sub engine? You’d have to imagine the 37 of course!
I have the EB Voyager and am planning on getting the SUB37 when it comes out. Even though I have a few moogers, VX351 and the CP, I find that since I mostly focus on making sounds that I can use to play live, the moogers,vx and cp rack is of no use there.
If I didnt have the Voyager I would probably go for the SUB37 with its updated oscillators, multidrive and feedback circuits.
Now if you really need the cv stuff then the choice would clearly be the Voyager.
I could get a Sub 37 and a Motu 828x which has DC coupled outs and I need more I/O anyway. That way i can control the Sub 37 and the MF-102 Ring Mod with CV from Silent Way or Volta!
The control I wish the Voyager had is missing on the faceplate!
It’s engine is superb but it’s full potential is not yet unlocked!
Maybe I’m just too used to the ease of operating software?
only annoying thing i discover is the fact that the resonance is not immediate under the cutoff-frequency, like on all other synth’s in the whole world is standard
Well, everything is just there in front of you. Hardware is great if its knobby and buttony, but terrible if there’s awkward menus. Maybe I’m just not used to the outboard workflow?
I have the Voyager. Maybe less than 6 months now. Prior to the sub37’s announcement. I do love it and I’ve certainly not maxed or even nearly explored its full potential yet. but i find myself very interested in the sub37 (ever since playing with it at NAMM )and its added features like MultiDrive, Duo Mode, i believe there is a sequencer / arp… just to name a few. Still the Voyager is its own beast and if I ever decide to go Modular idk if can think of a better companion for a modular set up. So the Voyager has a lot of growth potential in that regard. if I could justify and afford it I’d likely get the sub37 too.
truth. the menu on the voyager is very quick to navigate. nothing is " hidden" to deep. I would say voyager + modular will blow the Sub37 away any day. But that is also WAY more expensive and requires more patients while building your system. the only thing I can’t get out of my voyager/ modular/ daw configuration that the Sub37 had is the paraphonic mode and the hold setting on the envelopes ( delay can be created with slew limiter)
3 osc’s is a pretty good reason to choose one above the other IMO
If youre mostly in the box, than the voyager’s full midi specs makes it ideal. I LOVE some of yester year’s synths, but I now require midi cc’s, as I only have two hands, and I HATE using the computer. Moog stuff is where it’s at, yo.
Oh, and i guess its worth mentioning that there isnt much under the hood anyway(as others have already mentioned). Even the RME doesnt have that much going on beneath the surface.
I for some reason think your original post was basically asking the rest of us to confirm, in you, the want to get a voyager.
OMG I totally disagree: the menu on the voyager is SO awkward. I have yet to figure out the logic to when the cursor button does what the arrow buttons do and vice versa. It makes my chest tight just thinking about doing anything of substance with the voyager’s menu.
I love my hardware synths because they sound great and they’re easier to modulate (with my hands and feet, manually, in real time), not necessarily because they’re all that easy to program. I know everyone is all about hardware workflow, and maybe I’m just a digital native whippersnapper, but I can work so much more quickly with software when it comes to editing complicated synth patches and tweaking a whole bunch of modulation routings.
I tried using the Voyager’s menu and couldn’t make heads or tails of it. Granted, I didn’t spend weeks pouring over the manual burning the midnight oil…
I’m a freeking musician, who expects musician’s to read manuals?
