Which is which, and when ?

I have proposed this little test on another forum recently and thought it would be interesting so see the results here.

In the following audio sample, there is a series of notes played on two completely different analog synths, but set-up to sound identical. Really close. Let’s call them A:(Minimoog D) and B:(MFB Kraftzwerg).

Each sequences of a few notes is separated by a short silence. The goal is to be able to tell which synth is playing, and when.

The results can be typed like this: ABAABBAB (that’s not it, by the way :mrgreen: )

Good luck. The winner of the right combination wins a Gold Voyager (not really…)

http://soundcloud.com/thealien666/side-by-side/s-JEHEJ

Awesome test, Alain! :smiley:

Marc did a similar one comparing the Mini, 2600, and MS-20. This is a fun one too…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ErcBJqyNA&list=UUaPuR7M6hAmFdk7HQUE7BaQ&index=52&feature=plcp

For those who are having a hard time telling those two machines appart, you need a very good sound system, or headphones, in order to hear the differences.
Because there are some differences between a $3K Minimoog D and a $0.8K Kraftzwerg. Very subtle, but there nonetheless. And yes, they can be heard despite Soundcloud’s audio compression.

Edit: BTW, the patch is composed of 3 oscillators, sawtooth wave, one octave appart, passed thru a low pass filter with medium resonance, cutoff modulated by an envelope.

I’m going to make an uneducated guess here, only having heard a Minimoog and not the thing you’re comparing it to. ABBAABA

Sorry, guess again Voltor…(and you’re missing one letter at the end, there are 8 sections :wink: )

Clues: listen carefully to the higher harmonics (the Mini has slightly more) or download the file (3 megs) and zoom in on the waveforms in your favorite DAW program (the Mini has a more curved sawtooth slope)…

I thought this test was fair because it is using the same features on both synths: 3 oscillators, ramp-up sawtooth, resonant low pass ladder filter, similar envelopes (Kraftzwerg set-up to have equal decay and release on those to match Minimoog’s A(DR)S limitation).

In our class whe had a comparising of a real ms 20 and the software version. I love this stuff…
my guess AABBABBA and thats only having a mini. So sorry if im off :sunglasses:

Analogmadness, you’re almost 180 degrees off… :wink:

But don’t worry everyone, nobody on the other forums got it right either… Even I have to look at my notes because it’s so damn close.

BTW, the goal of this is purely for the fun of it. It’s not meant to favor one synth over the other. It’s just to demonstrate that when great care is taken in replicating a patch on two very different machines, very often good results are achievable.

Anyone else ? :mrgreen:

(the answer will be given via PM after one try.)

I know this one:
up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start

Haha! I though that kind of stuff when I quickly read the first Alain’s post!!

Hahaha! I should have mentioned that all members of this forum that are also present on Anafrog are automatically disqualified… :wink:

That’s the hand jive!

Push reset, try again.

Analogmadness, you’re almost 180 degrees off…

Yeah most of the time :laughing:

For those curious to know, but afraid to try a guess :unamused: , here’s the sequence:

B B A A B A B A

A=Minimoog D (1975 old osc board)

B=MFB Kraftzwerg Semi Modular

Note: I had tried to include my VA (Alesis Ion) in the test, but could not arrive at a close enough result. It was instantly recognizable (evident lack of higher harmonics, actual frequency response too limited at 8KHz max).

I hope some of you had a few seconds of entertainment trying to figure out this ? That was the goal. Thanks.

Alain.