where is the poly stacked SP video/demo?

C’mon… you guys said you’d try to put something back in October…

You even had it all set up at NAMM…

But I can’t find a video or demo of how they sound stacked together, ANYWHERE…

How about this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2cfBchJbCQ

drools

oh man - Katsunori Ujiie is da master of demos! check out all of his videos on youtube. he demos nearly every analog synth you can think of and he takes requests, too.

http://www.youtube.com/user/musictrackjp

you HAVE to watch the demo he does for the yamaha cs series - it’s so awesome! http://www.youtube.com/user/musictrackjp#p/u/1/RV7pdqgLqdM

we need to get him to do an all Moog demo using Mini, Phattys, Foogers, the Moog Guitar… (taurus 3) http://www.youtube.com/user/musictrackjp#p/u/38/UX46b81rJ1A


Vintage Minimoog #1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xsHN3NTyk0
Vintage Minimoog #2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5d0O8Sr_Vw

Just saw this today and it blew my mind.. sounds way better than I expected… I know I need this now… kinda perplexed as to why Moog never wanted to make their own demos and market it this way… but, so glad this guy did… love all his videos.

I love the Slim Phatty “bleachers.”… oh and the poly phatty is cool too…:slight_smile:

Impressive

I played it at NAMM- the videos don’t quite do it justice.

Now, how about a Really Slim Phatty expander module- Slim Phatty guts, 1 rack unit, no knobs or display, to be controlled by a Little or Slim Phatty? Even if it were only $100 cheaper than the Slim Phatty, we would be talking $2600 or so for a 4 voice Moog. Srsly.

Can somebody explain EXACTLY how they have those SP’s chained together and what operating configuration is used???

I’m curious if a Voyager, T3, and an SP or two could be controlled via the Voyager keyboard to obtain that result.

How about a 4 voice Medium Phatty in one instrument?

And an 8 voice Phat Phatty?

“The Morbidly Obese.”

Shhhh…I am trying to entice them into it! Don’t scare them off!!!

Arrgghh! Now you went and did it! They ran away…!

@ c7sus

There is a feature in LP/SP called “POLY MODE”. This would be in the MIDI Setup section of the master menu. Normally it is OFF, but you can select the number of voices in your system (in the Japanese video there were 4) and which voice number each particular unit is (i.e. 1 of 4, 2 of 4, 3 of 4, 4 of 4). In the video - MIDI out from the LP goes to the MIDI in of the first unit, then MIDI THRU to the next and so on (One of the reasons MIDI THRU was added to the product). In addition to this setting, the Auto-fine tune function is enabled on each of the instruments - you get best results if you let all the instruments warm up together before playing. Also, Local Control is turned OFF on the SPs just so you do all your controlling from the main LP - it makes the different voices sound the same as you edit or change sounds on the LP.

You don’t NEED the LP to control the SPs, as any MIDI controller will work - it just reduces the # of voices in the system if you don’t use an LP.
A Voyager can be configured the same way but the voices won’t match if used w/ an LP or SP.

Hope this answers your question.
SD

A Voyager can be configured the same way but the voices won’t match if used w/ an LP or SP.

Oh yeah, thank you very much for that post.

I’m a little confused about the last part---- that the voices won’t match if controlled by a Voyager???

Do you mean the patches on each individual SP in the video were all set to the same patch??? It sounds “thicker” than what I would have expected if that is the case, like the voice of each SP was goosed just a bit.

The Voyager synth engine is VERY different from the LP/SP - the example video relies on all instruments set to the same patch. Otherwise it would be a multitimbral patch. The problem w/ a multitimbral MIDI polyphonic setup is because the voice allocation is through MIDI (which is a serial interface), if you play the same chord twice, the order of the notes sent to the units in the setup might be different. If the sounds/patches were different, then one note of the chord will sound with a different patch sometimes - unless of course you have PERFECT keyboard technique…

The thickness is just the natural result of 4 phatties in poly mode playing the same patch.

Hope that clears that up
SD

You can do multi-timbral poly if the controller is smart enough. The Oberheim 4/8-voice from over 30 years ago had different voice allocation modes that let you do this. There’s no reason this couldn’t be done on an LP controlling SPs if Moog added this in their OS. MIDI being serial has nothing to do with this. It’s all about which MIDI channel each note is sent on.