Whats Next?

So… Now we have a Little Phatty “budget” monophonic… a “high end” Voyager monophonic… a Freqbox oscillator standalone… What do you think is Moog’s next logical product release?

I think the next logical step is an new CP box. With an envelope generator or two, maybe a dedicated VCA and whatever else they can squeeze on there (sequencer maybe?). That would truly tie all the moogerfoogers together.

I really want a Voyager that has the Little Phatty LED knobs… That’d be sweet as hell!

What about the missing MF-106??? Pitch to CV perhaps?

I would love a Moog CV/Analog drum machine.

A CV sequencer for your Voyager/Phatty/Moogerfoogers.

How about both in one?

All great suggestions, Sir.

How about a MoogerFooger CV keyboard which has a tracking circuit that allows you to daisy-chain FreqBoxes for polyphony? ; )

Yeah but the MF-107 isn’t even monophonic…

How about a small mixer, maybe with a footswitch to select channel setups?
Then people with a bunch of MF’s can mix them in a parallel fashion and choose channels with their foot.
No bells n whistles, vcas or MIDI.
Just a MF style little mixer. :slight_smile:

If the rumours of it being able to be used as a CV controlled stand-alone oscillator are true, it is monophonic!
A keyboard with simple tracking function which directs keys depressed to multiple CV outputs would make them polyphonic. It could also have inputs so that all of the returning signals could be mixed down to a single output.
I suppose a number of outputs and inputs could be provided so that each note could have its own synthesizer signal chain, or all notes could be directed through a single filter, etc.
Basically, I guess I’m just advocating for a keyboard controller to work with a MoogerFooger set up, now that an oscillator has been added! It could even be inexpensive, as the only electronics it would really need would be the tracking stuff! Of course, it probably wouldn’t be inexpensive because they’d probably hang a few bells-and-whistles upon it, but still. : )
It would be a good idea for them, as they would then satisfy those of us crying out for a polyphonic… and it would be profitable for them as we would have to buy at least three FreqBoxes to get a decent amount of polyphony… (meaning, of course, that a Moog polyphonic would NOT be inexpensive…)
They still need to put out an Envelope MoogerFooger, though.

it would be like a funny-looking modular synth system. cool!

maybe they could make a rackofooger rack range that would allow for modular systems of different sizes.

If you have the money, you CAN have a new polyphonic Moog with this:

http://www.paia.com/midi2cv.asp

Its going to get pretty expensive, though.

Well, that is definitely along the lines of what I was thinking. I would have to overcome my extremely biased anti-MIDI stance, though. Which, I suppose is fair… as what I’m proposing would require digital aspects…

It would be cool to have a small keyboard with the name Moog on it that did it, though. : )

Oh, come on, Oyster Rock… it wouldn’t get that expensive! Let’s see, it would just be $350 for each oscillator… about $200 (used) for each filter… and um.. oh. Well, still. ; )

umm…you ever try tuning several standalone vcos with a wide range pot and no fine tuning controls? :wink:

If I were in analog for convenience, I wouldn’t be in analog for long. ; )

I think maybe he’s saying (if you’ll allow me Kevin) that not only would it be difficult, but that it wouldn’t work well enough to be useful.

I would think that not only would there be a need for fine tuning, but also it would be neccesary to have keyboard range and span control. This would effectively make more than 1 MF107 (let alone 4 or 6) impossible to coordinate together to a keyboard.

Which isn’t to say you couldn’t try (I’m sure people will). You could just use the Voyager or LP for a poly-controller and VCA.

I’d like to see Moog release a full-functioned CV sequencer (although it would probably have to have MIDI also, unfortunately :imp: ) or Vocoder.

Both of these devices fall squarely within the Moog legacy, and would also fill gaps in the analog synth market right now.

Plus, a sequencer could be used to create drum machine rhythms in conjuction with other Moog products.

I like the idea of a new CP251 with ADSR and VCA, etc… but even with this product and the other Moogers, you’d only have a limited modular, you know? It’s almost a little silly to try to use the MFs as a full modular when you can buy a real modular that’s much more equipped for less money.

If the MF-107 cannot be adequately controlled by keyboard via CV, then I would not describe it as being a “stand alone oscillator. (as differentiated from the oscillator effect… having a droning [or even linearly modulated] oscillator is hardly a professionally useful device)” Perhaps my previous enthusiasm about the product was unfounded…
However, I don’t know about anyone else, but I have, on many an occasion, used the self-oscillation on the MF-101 as a sine-wave oscillator controlled by CV. Granted, in the higher octaves, the intonation suffers (range and scale would help a lot)… but the polyphony I would be interested in would not likely span more than 3 octaves… that’s what pianos are for. ; )
When tuning the Low Pass resonance to an oscillator, it’s no more frustrating than tuning a Moog Sonic Six or a Korg MonoPoly (and having polyphonic individually-controlled oscillators would be much like using the polyphony on a MonoPoly which is a very fun and unique sound).
So, if the FreqBox is AT LEAST as CV-useable and tuneable as the Low Pass, then it would suit the purposes I would imagine for it.

I just don’t get everyones obsession with having a Moogerfooger oscillator??? You can find old Heathkit tube ones for less than $30. I got 13 for $40 years ago and did a 12 tone performance with them.

Is it for drone stuff or do people mean something that tracks with a guitar? That is… into your 102 into the 101 into the 104/105/107 etc… for a guitar synth thing.

Guitar synths are the worse of both worlds and do not serve the beauty of each instruments. It sounds hoaky…instant irony and irony is for people who give up!

I just don’t get everyones obsession

That’s just it. You are having trouble understanding how people can possibly enjoy something you don’t.

The simple answer is, people have different tastes. I know it’s a crazy idea. People who taste, feel, see, smell and hear differently. But it exists. A true enigma…


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Maybe I should of wrote what I was really thinking…

How stupid are all these people who think that a Moogerfooger oscillators would all that amazing on it’s own.

Dude or dudette…I have a 6 VCO MOTM modular system as well as a Cyndustries Zeroscillator, 2 Blacet Dark Star Chaos modules several filters that will go into self oscillation. I know a thing or two about oscillators and drone. It’s the modulation from one VCO to another that makes things interesting. This is what the MF-107 is about and why it’s rad.

The MF-107 is amazing and it’s more than just a Moogerfooger oscillator. So everyone gets their wish and more…