i think moog would be wasting their time building taurus pedals again. its such a small market.im sure theres only a handful of guitarists out their that want/are able to play bass pedals whilst playing guitar anyway. but hey, moog is a builder of boutique/niche products so maybe a new taurus is on the agenda. personally i think it would be better investing r&d funds into something more useful like a voyager rack which adds more voices to the voyager.
Hey, the theremin is certainly a niche item - and look how well those have sold.
That’s very true! You don’t hear those a lot, anywhere, but the do sell quite well!!!
true but the theremin has more sound scope and is much more fun to play.u cant exactly play intricate stuff on one 8ves worth of bass pedals.they may sound fat but thats the only good thing about the taurus. ![]()
Hey! If you don’t like it, I’ll gladly buy yours! Seriously… If any one doesn’t want theirs, which I highly doubt, I’ll buy it!
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I don’t think Moogmusic will ever release a new version of the Taurus pedals.
For more info. go to www.rlmusic.co.uk and listen to the Richard Lawson interview with Bob Moog. Mr Moog explains the reasons why this is unlikely to happen.
For Taurus 1, just keep your eyes out on ebay, these pedals do come up, although now less frequently (so you will need to be patient). Contrary to my earlier post on this topic (now eating humble pie!), I got my Taurus1 pedals midi converted using the Kenton Electronics Pro Solo kit. They work great with the conversion! Greater flexibilty when recording and playing live. And on the matter of that legendary Taurus pre-set, it will probably never be bettered!
I read that Bob Moog interview. A few points:
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- Bob ruled out a polyphonic but did not rule out a Taurus reissue.
- Bob asked what was the feature that people wanted - the sound or the package? Bob acknowledged that the package is expensive but Richard confirmed that the sound was the feature of desire. It’s a lot easier to reproduce the sound.
- Richard told Bob that he had a waiting list of 50 people wanting Taurus pedals. That’s just one dealer of many worldwide.
- A few years ago Moog Music did have a survey on a Taurus reissue.
I wouldn’t be so doubtful of a Taurus reissue. After all Don Buchla stated at NAMM2000 that he had no desire to reissue his analog modulars, and now he has the 200e.
I didn’t know that! Thanks for the info…
With regards the Bob Moog interview . . Bob told Richard and I that the real issue is down to the cost of retooling . . Moogmusic Inc is basically too small a company to re-invest in the machinery to make thier own pedal mechanisms (as they did before) and the number of possible sales would make buying in a pedal board from Fatar far too expensive . . . also there are only a very limited amount of third party pedal board manufacturers available nowadays.
The Taurus sold well because it fitted the live music market place at the time . . things are different now, most live musicians would probably sequence a bassline then fuss with pedals?
The Source MIDId to a set of Roland PK5’s makes an excellent and more versitile substitute to a Taurus.
Mal
When I filled out the survey a few years ago, I told them that a Taurus reissue would be a better seller as a MIDI module - plenty of aftermarket MIDI pedals abound. That way it would appeal to musicians who want those big Taurus bass sounds but don’t want a big set of foot pedals.
And the Moog Source does indeed serve as a Taurus I substitute; I patched a copy of the Taurus presets into the Source and the A/B was damn close. They may both make an appearance at AHMW this year.
do u have the settings for the source taurus patch? thanks.
I am happy to hear about the Source. I have been trying to get my Mini to sound exactly like a Taurus for over a decade. Forget the suggested setting in the manual. I read that can not be done due to the idiosyncratic processing of the sound. I have tried different combinations of chorus and phasers, but have not found the perfect sound. I think of this situation as being similiar to the Solina String Ensemble. The dry sound is just that, the life comes from the processing of the sound. The Taurus II lacked this feature, I assume, and therefore it is much easier to reproduce the sound of the later generation model from other Moogs. Am I wrong to assume that a newly developed processor in a box, from MOOG, would be an aid to obtain the original Taurus sound? One could use pre-existing pedals and CV for driving a mono analog synth, saving all of that hassle of construction costs for MOOG.
What about pedals that had the Taurus sounds programmed + midi capabilities???
One thing that I’d personally like, if Dr. Moog and company could resurrect the basic innards of the Taurus I, but not on its own. They could take the equivelent of two Taurus units and group them together under microprocessor control (with 8 memory patches) in a 25-note pedalboard. A two-voice Taurus unit. That would be great.
If the organ-style pedals themselves are too expensive, I’d be happy with guitar-pedal style foot switches, as long as they permit my EE wide foot. I have a high instep, also, but that doesn’t seem to affect my pedal playing.
I’ve always wondered why the guitar pedalboard manufacturers (Boss, Behringer, Digitech, etc.) don’t just arrange the toe switches like the white & black keys of a piano keyboard. Then you could easily use it for anything - notes, midi stuff, etc. Can’t be too expensive.
Good point, Argyle! That’s something I hadn’t thought of. Perhaps, the reason it would be cheaper to build a flat pedalboard, like your saying, is that it’s easier to build flat, rubber-encased footswitches than the sculpted wood, or plastic of classic pedalboards.
One proviso: they could probably be slightly thinner switches than the ones found on multi-effects systems.
[This type of system probably wouldn’t be embraced by traditional organ players, though.]
Does anyone remember a Genesis video from the 80’s where they’re in a studio and Phil Collins is hitting a strange keyboard with his hands - were those Taurus pedals? (Don’t know why he was using his hands…)
yes, it was a set of taurus I 's
that goofy bastard, got to love 'em. ![]()
The song is called “I Don’t Care Anymore” and I believe it’s on the About Face album.
He uses them with his hands so he can make adjustments to the cutoff foot slider while playing.
There is such a market for the Taurus, it is time to get on with the re-issue of the beast to end all beasts. All who are interested, take the time to let the good people at MOOG know we want to give them some money.