uuuhhhmmm . . .WOW! $60,000 for a Moog modular!

:open_mouth:
http://cgi.ebay.com/MOOG-SYSTEM-55-rare-vintage-analog-modular-synthesizer_W0QQitemZ120455840575

sorry if this was discussed before

Beautiful isn’t it?

Thanks for sharing

The wood isn’t stock.
The mounting screws aren’t stock.
The module complement isn’t that of a stock 55.
One module is missing a screw.
One knob missing its reflector.
Another knob (Moog 921 waveform) has the wrong reflector.
The rubber feet used on the top portion isn’t stock.
The pilot lamp isn’t stock.
There’s evidence of some spray having been used on some controls and jacks.
The manual supplied is a copy.

Yet it’s a mint, perfect 55?
Previously the seller said it was a custom-made 55 built by Bob Moog, but now doesn’t include that text.
From all I can see, this was a ā€œproject Moog 55ā€- one built up from misc pieces.
I can only imagine the ā€œperfectionā€ of the electronics inside.

Here’s a pic of one I restored: http://www.synthfool.com/moog55kl.jpg
It cost less than $60K (including international shipping and restoration costs), yet I’d never even suggest it’s perfect.

There’s a sucker born every minute.
If someone pays $60K for it, I’d suggest they’re a ā€œperfect fool.ā€
Luckily not every sucker has $60K.

PWNED!

Wow, the one you restored is gorgeous…

Kevin, I see the missing reflector, and the wrong reflector, and the unoriginal cabinet, as well as the spray residue and unoriginal feet, as well as the ā€œcustomā€ lamp, but where’s the missing screw? Can’t place it. :confused: Not that it matters, because I’m neither dumb enough to spend that kind of money on a POS 55, nor do I have 60k…period. :laughing:

where’s the missing screw?

Right-most 911 envelope generator.
2nd module from the right on the top cab.
A C-frame mounting screw.
I have about 4000 of those screws in stock and that particular Ebay’r can buy one from me for the very special price of only $50. :wink:
They’re 10 cents each for any one else.

:laughing: Epic! Yeah I found it. Thanks Kevin! I’ve got a feeling that guy’s got more than one screw loose, though. :wink:

Wow! Price jump, last time this went to auction it was only 50 grand?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110383187204
That listing was also shown here:
http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2009/04/moog-system-55.html
While the listing is quite misleading as to originality, it still has Moog modules in there. I would not feel guitly rearranging these into say, a portable cabinet or other custom enclosure, since it is not an original configuration. I’m sure the price is high to avoid Ebay fees, probably looking for a reasonable offer.
This seller also claimed to be dismantling the famous Moog CEMS because it had eight sequencers, and only needed four?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110400746531
I would think the CEMS would be worth more undisturbed, since it was reported to be built by Bob himself. A historic system that was slated to go in a musem, but ran out of funding. Was auctioned off at Viema last year. Info on that auction here:
http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2007/10/vemia-auction-update-joel-chadabe-late.html
Too bad the seller seems to have no respect for historic value of these Moogs. Kind of like the old tomb raider’s melting down ancient art/relics for the gold. :cry:

50 bucks for a screw?
Jeez!
:laughing:

EricK

That’s cheaper than a hooker :mrgreen:

Kevin, that is one spectacular picture. Thanks for sharing.

This IS Kevin Lightner we’re talking about, MC. :open_mouth: Now I have pictures in my head that REALLY shouldn’t be there. :laughing:

everyone up in arms over this $60K modular (I agree it’s insanity). funny. i feel the same way when I see Taurus 1’s listed for more than $2000.

But as was mentioned earlier… ā€œthere’s a suckerā€¦ā€

Thanks for the kind words on my photography, Mark.
The camera did all the work though.
I wish my work took 1/250th of a second to do. :wink:

As for T1’s, I agree prices can be quite tall.
But we’re talking about a 30+ year old synth designed to sit on the floor and be stepped on.
To obtain a really nice one today that still plays reliably will take some money.
I personally could find much better uses for money like that myself, but it’s all relative to how much you’ve got and how bad you want something.
We’ll see what the new T3 does to those vintage T1 sales soon too.

What a beautiful looking synth! Tell me though, unless ā€œperfectā€ in your view means exactly as it would’ve been delivered by RA Moog 40 years ago, what was less than perfect about this 55?

Or some luck… four years ago I found a very clean very reliable set in a vintaj guitar store. I’m at a loss to explain why a store that sells '59 vintage les pauls for $300,000 lets these Taurus Is go for $1000 (!!!) With original moog fiberglass case.

This place sells the occasional accordian. I spotted the case and said to myself ā€œthat’s an awful big accordianā€ Popped the lid and they were inside, they never even put them out on display.

What a beautiful looking synth! Tell me though, unless ā€œperfectā€ in your view means exactly as it would’ve been delivered by RA Moog 40 years ago, what was less than perfect about this 55?

My statement was basically a comparative to that auction where the seller stated 4 or 5 times that his was ā€œperfect.ā€
I don’t believe anything is really perfect. At least as made by man.
If I can notice screws missing or whatever, I’d call that ā€œroom for improvementā€ and certainly not perfect.
For example, if I replaced the screw that was missing, would it then be ā€œmore than perfect?ā€

On the 55 I showed, there’s some minor wood imperfections, a few small scratches and that sort of thing.
I just can’t bring myself to declaring any vintage synth as mint or perfect.
I don’t believe there is such a thing as a mint vintage synth, period.

How old does a synthesizer have to be to call it vintage? 1985? I have a dead mint Casio CZ-101, that I aquired unopened in it’s original box. Including the 6 National Hi-Top batteries (not so mint). Not a scratch, finger print, or dust speck on it. I did fire it up and record it via MIDI just the other day, still sounds amazing.
Here is a pic of the CZ in the oiriginal hardshell case. It actually sparkles.

While I’m not a collector and believe a synthesizer should be played, I have enough CZ-101’s to set this one aside.
The original CZ case keeps the dust away nicely!

And the CZ sounds awesome with a Moog Modular. Killer combo! :wink:
CZ-101 lead over Moog Modular bass

Nice sounding piece. I just retired my v good condition CZ-101 from service as I found a better than average {has some light marks/scratches}CZ-5000 for $75 this week. Nice to have full size keys and another sequencer. I don’t have a mint anything (other than some DI’s that are still in box.) in my collection. But almost all of it is in better condition than most. Most is studio only and never gigged. (Except the Vger and JX3-P/Planet S) Just keeping them in this condition is work enough. I’d hate to worry about keeping them mint! (Like the pipe organ and Bosendorfer at the local church.) Closest to mint for me is my modular. It has the least use and wear of anything I’ve got.

How old does a synthesizer have to be to call it vintage? 1985? I have a dead mint Casio CZ-101

No offense personally, but it appears you’re basing ā€œmintā€ on external visuals.

I’m basing it on the natural aging and wear of electronic components.
24 year old electrolytic capacitors are not like new ones.
Silver tarnishes. Rubber degrades. PCBs flex and can crack connections.
Key pivots and other frictional surfaces can wear.
Metal can fatigue.
Part values can drift.

A person can have broken bones inside, but look fine externally.
Same for synths.

No slam, but we’re looking at these synths from two different perspectives.