Sub 37 vs Model D

I’ve got a specific question about the sound of the sub 37 vs a Model D. I have a sub 37 already and have dialed in a very smooth beautiful bass sound that I use as the primary sound in my band which as some of you know is a folk and improvisational jam band. I am thinking about getting a Model D to become my main instrument and then use the sub 37 for other sounds in the band.

I would like to hear from anyone that has a model D and can compare the sounds of the two and tell me what you think. Can the model D get a smooth buttery bass? or are the oscillators too rough for that? What about consistent front end pluck with the model D? The sub 37 has a reset function that starts both oscillators at the same time every time you depress a key and it really helps for pluck in the bass sound. Can the model D do that?

Any other observations would be greatly appreciated from any of you.

New or ‘old’ Model D…?

New and for now I am going under the assumption that the basic sound is going to be the same or very close.

It should be, since it’s a replica of the original.

Apart from the keyboard… which apparently has to be “simulated”…!?

The Voyager keyboard used in the new Minimoog generates pitch CV as soon as possible to send to Board #4 in the Mini. So it it very close to what the original Pratt-Read did, but of course it doesn’t have the same buttery feel to it. But that’s another story and doesn’t affect the sound.

To answer the original post, I think the Minitaur, Sub Phatty and Sub 37 are the only Moog that can reset their oscillators at each key press.
What about the Taurus 3, guys?..

Can you post a sound clip reference of the type of sound you are looking for?

Your “buttery” may be another man’s “creamy” :wink:

Beautiful Model D video…This should answer your question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JN2dOM47F4

Unless you have money to burn, stick with the Sub-37 which delivers a hell of a punch for the price. The new D is for retro-gear fetishists I think.

Cant do that just not set up for it right now.

I’m not gonna lie man that sounds just incredible to me. I can’t believe I went so long in my life (I’m old as hell) without knowing what a synth even was…

I don’t know man. I like that there are no digital parts to this thing (outside the keyboard). The other synth that is attractive to me is the Voyager old school. Something about the simplicity in addition to the reputed sound quality is just so alluring to me.

I’m not old as hell but I totally get that.

Sometimes I wish I don’t give a shmutz about how sound is produced, but I actually care. Maybe that’s because I studied physics.

One thing amazing about sound is that it requires the atmosphere to exist. There is no sound in outer space, is there?

Indeed, there isn’t sound in the vacuum, actually. Sound is the vibration of some particles so you actually need a material environment, albeit our atmosphere, the ocean, a piece of wood etc.

[quote=“stiiiiiiive”]Indeed, there isn’t sound in the vacuum, actually./quote]

It’s dead quiet inside our Kirby vacuum cleaner… :smiley:

I have a Voyager Old School and love it. I also have the Sub-37. I know what you mean about the ‘purity’ of an all-analogue synth like the VOS, but the VOS and the '37 can actually sound fairly similar in many cases. The '37 offers more modern conveniences.

^^^^^

I’ve got the sub 37 and two mother 32’s. Honestly the sub 37 sounds amazing and I have heard that it is a pretty dark synth but don’t really have much to compare that with. Whats your take on the sub vs the voyager? In your opinion is there a difference in sound quality between the two and what would you say that is?

Voyager vs Sub-37 in terms of audio quality? That’s a difficult question to answer - it’s all in the ear of the beholder.

I have a Voyager Old School, a Sub-37 and three Mother 32s in a Eurorack setup. They all sound great to my ears, and although they have different characters, I can make patches that sound pretty much identical on all of them (the Sub-37 only has two VCOs). It’s only when you explore the differences, rather than the similarities (i.e. the typical Moog Sound) in these instruments that you begin too really appreciate them IMHO.

The difference between them for me is mostly how I use them. The VOS is best for playability (bigger keyboard, bigger knobs). The Sub-37 for advanced modern features (great sequencer, patch memory, looping envelopes etc.), the 3 x Mother 32s for creating sounds that are simply not possible on the other two instruments.

If I had to gig just one, it would the Sub-37. If I’m experimenting with new sounds in my own little studio, the 3 Mothers offer greater potential. If I just want to sit down and work on melodic lines, create a conventional lead part, or just play to relax and enjoy myself, I’d choose the Voyager Old School every time. The VOS is kind-of instinctive to me, like the Model D, I don’t have to think too hard to get the exact sound I want.

To me, sonically the VOS sounds more full and rounded, the Sub-37 sounds a little more bright and aggressive (not sure how you got the ‘dark’ impression) and more like the D, the Mothers (in multiples) give much greater sonic flexibility but you need to know what you’re doing patch-wise.