Loving the Sub 37 so far. Couple quick questions:
Is there a way to have different durations for the notes in the step sequencer?
Is there a way to edit notes in a sequence without re-writing the entire sequence?
Also, I wish the various lights (1-16) would light up indicating where you are in the sequence in addtion to the numbers on the screen.
Thanks
Joe
It’s a relational thing. By using TIEs you can make notes twice as long. Now, any note (or rest) that is not tied will be half as long as the tied notes. You can go into the PRESET EDIT menu and then the ARPEGGIATOR sub menu where you’ll find a parameter called CLOCK DIV. This lets you choose the unit of the beat for the arpeggiation or sequence steps. But that unit of the beat is the same for every step, meaning that changing CLOCK DIV only sets the overall relationship between the tempo and the notes. To differentiate note lengths, you’ll still need to use ties for the “normal” lengths and not use ties for the shorter lengths.
Future rev.
Future rev. This is how you will be able to tweak the individual step’s notes, velocity, and Mod Wheel position.
Thanks… all of that makes sense.
Really looking for the future updates but am extemely happy with the Sub 37 as-is for now! 
[quote="_DemonDan_"][quote="cb70"]I don't have the Light Show option on mine. Was that feature removed for FW update 1.0.1?[/quote]
Hi cb70,
Have you spent much time in the GLOBAL MENU yet?[/quote]
I have scrolled through all menus. At least I believe I have. I was comparing them with the menu breakdown from the pdf and for Global Menu 2.x mine only shows the top three choices. Light Show and Preset volume are missing.
Hmmm… I don’t have the Sub 37 with me, but 1.0.1 is installed and I used the LIGHT SHOW parameter recently.
Have you re-installed the latest operating systems? It only takes a few minutes and doesn’t harm your presets.
The Sub 37 automatically recieves SysEx files that contain the Moog and Sub 37 IDs.
The crucial thing to know is that, when you load a SysEx file that was made via CURRENT PRESET, ALL PRESETS, or BULK DUMP, the presets contained in that file will go to the exact same locations they were at when they were dumped.
This means that some/all of your presets may/may not get erased, depending on what’s in that particular SysEx file.
The only Sub 37 SysEx file that’s different is created using PANEL SOUND (soon to be renamed BUFFER as it’s more accurate).
BUFFER: SEND sends whatever is currently in your edit buffer. If you’ve called up a preset, but haven’t edited anything, it will send the preset as it is. If you make any edits, the edited version (living in the edit buffer) is sent.
Whenever you load a SysEx file that was created using BUFFER (or PANEL SOUND), it will only go into your Sub 37’s edit buffer, meaning that, although you can play it, it isn’t actually saved anywhere until you do a SAVE and choose a location.
For this reason, I recommend that all single preset dumps that programmers are going to give to the public be dumped using BUFFER.
This way, Sub 37 owners can try your preset even if they’ve already used up all of their 256 preset locations.
Ewww. I don’t like that. I’d much rather be able to load the “patch” location via the panel and then go to the sysex menu and choose to receive a patch to the current location. If you have the power, please get that added to a firmware wish list.
That gets tricky when there can be anywhere between 1 & 256 presets being dumped at once.
There is only one Edit Buffer (like pretty much on all keyboards) so, if there is more than one preset, they can’t all go to that edit buffer.
Don’t forget that there is an alleged editor coming for this that will make the process much more predictable and organizable.
What you’re currently using is a raw SysEx Dump method which is much more primitive than a LOAD/SAVE operation.
The above pretty much explains why I prefer to have a PC based librarian for dealing with patches. I hate having patches forced to restore to the original patch location. Give me a librarian like the Access Virus and I’ll be one happy camper.
Thanks for the tip on saving patches from buffer. I glad to see the terminology change to “buffer”. That’s a lot clearer.
It really depends on your situation. One excellent use for SysEx dumps is a live situation that requires many different banks, each to be dumped to a keyboard at the right moment. The beauty of this method is that it doesn’t require the performer to answer any questions or push any buttons. It just happens.
Don’t get me wrong, I like having BOTH approaches the most. However, I am a software designer so I am well aware that creating solutions to make everyone happy are rarely practical.
It’s a problem that Moog has already solved. Page 47 of the Slim Phatty manual:
The SP is able to receive System Exclusive data at any time without any special prior setup. SysEx files are recognized and received automatically when a SysEx data transfer is initiated. The Little Phatty’s LCD screen will display the status of SysEx data transfers as follows:
SINGLE PRESETS:
The SP will briefly display a ‘RECEIVING SINGLE PRESET’ message whenever a single preset is transmitted via SysEx. The preset will automatically be stored at the current preset location. For example, if the current preset location is 31 when the SysEx is received, the new preset data will be written into location 31.
I understand that the firmware for the Sub 37 is still in-development. But this is some rather basic sysex functionality that was already present in an earlier Phatty. I don’t know of any reason why the Sub 37 couldn’t also provide the functionality, even if I have to wait for a new firmware to provide it.
I do look forward to the software. Hopefully it will resolve this issue for me. Still, I’m rather shocked it isn’t already present in the firmware.
You can already do this, pretty much, using the “Send Panel” option on the sysex menu. (This same item will be renamed BUFFER SND in the next firmware version). There’s just one extra step:
So, if you know you want a preset to automatically get loaded back to the same preset location it was in originally, use the second option on the Sysex menu, CUR PRESET, to output the preset sysex. You might want to put the bank and patch number (example: B2P6) in the file name when you save the sysex file, as a reminder.
If you want to save a preset so that you can load it back to any location in the synth, then use the first option on the sysex menu, PANEL SOUND [BUFFER SND in later firmware]. Then when you send the preset back to the unit it is simply loaded to the edit buffer and you can save it anywhere you like.
Another note, the preset save process has two steps… in the first step you can choose to edit the name, or not… in the second step, you can select any preset location in the unit before holding the SAVE button to complete the save process. So you can easily load a preset, tweak it, and then save it to a new location, as a part of the normal save procedure.
Yes, by re-loading the firmware everything is now viewable. Thanks for the help.
A couple questions on the Sub 37
When a change is made to the Sub 37 the display indicates a change has been made with the letter “E”. On my Voyager if a change is made you can see the original value and the altered value so you know how to get back to the original value. Is there an option to turn this on with the Sub 37 or will that option be available in a future update?
Does the Sub 37 automatically sync to an incoming midi signal?
Can someone explain the various options in the global menu regarding how the knobs alter settings? I know with the little phatty there were several options like no changes would be made until you swept past the stored value or the value would leap as soon as you moved the knob.
Thanks
Joe
Hi Joe,
When changing presets, the physical positions of the panel knobs will not match the values saved in a preset.
POT MODE, in the GLOBAL MENU, allows you to specify how a knob responds when you make changes to its position.
ABS: In absolute mode (default) the value of a parameter jumps to the knob’s current position as soon as you begin turning it.
THRU: In pass through mode turning the knob has no effect until it reaches its preset value and then takes effect.
RLTV: In relative mode turning a knob up or down slightly causes a minor change in value, and turning it further causes an increasingly greater change in value. This allows the value to “catch up” with the knob’s position and prevents any sudden jumps in sound.
Assuming that either or both of the MIDI In Ports are enabled (5-Pin DIN, USB), and you’re actually sending them MIDI Clock, you can then choose to have the Arp, LFO 1, LFO 2, Filter EG, and Amp EG each sync to MIDI Clock. You just need to light the dedicated SYNC button for each of those control sources.
You can use the PRESET EDIT MENU to choose the unit-of-the-beat for each of those control sources (from 4 whole notes to 1/64T).
There is currently no option for that. But… the future holds many things for the Sub 37.
This forum’s requests and suggestions are always considered and have resulted in many things that make the Sub 37 what it is today and what it will be tomorrow..
Just in case this feature hasn’t been implemented yet and you are trying to judge interest, I’d like to see this feature VERY much.