Hey—is there a way to get to the exact tempo on the Sub 37 like you could for the Little Phatty? I miss that feature.
I’d imagine this is a common question but I couldn’t find the right keywords to surface it.
Also, what’s everyone’s favorite master clock? I have a Disaster Area Smartclock and hate it with the passion of a thousand fiery suns.
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There isn’t a tempo display. It’s a much requested feature though, together with a general parameter display.
Okay, cool. Do you happen to know if that is the sort of thing addressable with a firmware update or are all early Sub 37s doomed? 
It’s certainly technically possible. Let’s just hope Moog agrees with us that a parameter display is a good idea 
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This feature is a MUST HAVE.
Tempo display for ARP and both LFOs as well.
Yeah. Been bumping this a lot, too.
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So I’m kind of curious. Although I agree that having a BPM display would be nice, why do so many people feel it’s an absolute necessity?
The only reason I can think of for wanting to dial in a precise, specific tempo is if you’re using the Sub37 as a master MIDI clock and have specific BPM requirements. But if that were the case, I would expect you would have some other more appropriate clock source, like a drum machine, DAW, or a dedicated MIDI master clock device.
If you’re expecting to match the tempo of other instruments (like a drum machine) by setting them both to the same BPM value, that’s probably not going to work as well as you’d like. One machine’s 120 BPM likely won’t exactly match another machine’s 120 BPM, at least not for long periods of time. If tempo matching is a requirement, syncing the machines with MIDI clock is a better solution.
So why is a BPM display such a critical requirement for some on the Sub37?
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For me its to be able to live jam with others, and not have to have things midi’d up. This can provide more organic options to tempo.
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I think I’d use the tap tempo button in that situation, although if you want things to stay in sync there’s no way around connecting devices and sending clock.
Arp led off + bpm tempo on screen !!!
Please moog
It works well without clock sync, if you know what you’re doing. In this video, Minilogue (the group, not the synth ^^) reveal they perform kind of unsynched, too. They have to do live beatmatching. Which might be a reason why their stuff sounds so organic and alive.
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I’d really like to see this feature added as well!
And as some have mentioned, it would also be great to be able to see the value of all knobs on the screen.
I’m another Sub37 player who’s hoping this is in the works. Hopefully the next firmware update will let us see the tempo, bpm and clock subdivision for the arp and each LFO.
Finally discovered this thread after not believing my eyes. So basically the tempo control for the arp/sequencer is totally imprecise without an external clock. I don’t know how this slipped by QC, but jeeeeez. Among being able to see the numerical settings for all the front panel knobs, at the very least we should have precise control over the tempo. C’mon Moog!
If you need the tempo to match the tempo of something else, you need to run both devices using the same clock, or you’ll always end up with slight tempo mismatches.
any update on this?
I really think this dates back to the ‘analog’ way Moog works.
That is never very precise, but that does make the sound so great.
Now when you are jamming with a band, it is not the biggest deal. If they hear your tempo, they can adjust.
But for any other scenario where you are not synced to an external clock this is critical.
Then again, these days most people will have their s37 sinced to some midi clock I think. So than it is less of an issue.
You use the internal clock when jamming, creating something (exact BPM is not that critical) and hook up the daw (or whatever) when you are happy with what you hear.
Still I agree, a precise BPM adjustment + monitoring option would be the best for flexibility.
Plus it should not be that hard (not hindered by any inside knowledge this is easy to write…)
Any updates on this? The Sub/Subsequent 37 synthesizers do not respond well to clocks from DAW or other sources. A work around would be to have a BPM readout on the instrument, which would make it possible to arrange it in time on a DAW after recording it. The software editor has numerical (non BPM) values on the Rate/BPM section, but it is not a linear relationship to BPM. Therefore, even if you plot values at various increments to get a ratio - its far too imprecise to make it usable.