does anyone know how to get the rogue’s auto trig effect without a rogue?
i owned a rogue… then i bought a prodigy, sold the rogue, now i miss the auto trig.
i bought a boss tremolo pedal thinking that’s all it was, but it’s not.
perhaps a more fancy tremolo pedal with lots of knobs for fine tuning?
in English please…
the rogue has an auto trigger function, where it holds the note that’s being played even after you take your hand off the keys.
when you set the contour generator switch to “contour” and turn the decay down low you get a kind of pulsing tremolo effect.
now, i don’t own a rogue, i own a prodigy, but i want to find a way to get that same effect. i tried a boss tr-2 tremolo pedal but that didn’t give me the same “pulse” like quality.
if anyone knows of a way to achieve that auto trigger effect that the rogue has, let me know.
try (listen to) the z.vex effects. especially seekwah, oohwah, or seektrem.
maybe thats what you’re looking for:
ZVex
on the other hand, how about the murf?
cheers,
dual
yeah, maybe the seekwah, though i can’t say for sure without playing it first.
and the murf sounds like it might get pretty close. i think my local shop has a murf in. i’ll have to check it out.
thanks!
You could reproduce the Rogue’s Auto-trig function on your Prodigy by sending an LFO to the gate or s-trig input on the back of the Prodigy. If you have the Mk I Prodigy(without CV jacks) you can still easily install a gate input. There’s actually a simple step by step at this link:
http://www.synhouse.com/prodigy2.html
It shouldn’t be that hard, even if you don’t have experience soldering. Everyone has to start somewhere.
The Boss Tremelo would make a similar sound as Auto-Trig if you send it a drone from your Prodigy. But, like you surmised, it would need more fine tuning of the wave form that it uses to gate the input signal. I doubt if there is any pedal that allows you to do this, because what you really need is an envelope shaper (which you already have on the Prodigy). All you need to to is continuously retrigger that envelope. The Rogue routes it’s own LFO to it’s trigger via the Auto-Trig, but you can do it with an LFO from a MoogerFooger or another Synth with LFO output. You might even be able to do it with an audio signal that is being heavily modulated by an LFO (again, from another synth).
By the way, do you like the Prodigy better than the Rogue aside from this? Does it sound better than the Rogue? I’ve only played a Prodigy once, but my initial impression was that it sounded just like the Rogue (which I’ve owned).
whoa,
okay, i’ll have to look into your suggestion with the LFO. i think that makes sense…
i do like the prodigy better.
the prodigy has way more flexibility in terms of tone shaping. it’s a lot more fun to dial in the sound i want. with that said, i think the rogue has taken the two or three most commonly used tones and discarded the rest, so it’s REALLY limited, but what it does do it does well.
the rogue is made of plastic, the prodigy is made of wood, and so that might be affecting my judgment, but i found the prodigy to be slightly warmer/thicker.
Try it, it’s not complicated. I may have over-explained it.
Many of the MoogerFoogers, for instance, have an output jack for their LFO. Just connect to your Progigy’s trig/gate input. The LFO wave just continuously triggers your Prodigy at a speed set by the LFO rate knob on the Moogerfooger. It’s as if you were pressing a key on and off continuously (or like auto-trig).
If you don’t have the input on your Prodigy(most don’t), you’ll have to install it. But it’s well worth it if you’re interested in synthsesizers, because using these kinds of connections are what analog synths are all about. You’ll be able to do this auto-trig sound as well as many other things.
bad ass.
thank you!
i don’t own a moogerfooger, but i suppose i’ll have to now. 
my prodigy is at the practice space so i can’t look for the input right now, but it does have a number of inputs in the back, so i know it’s one of the later models.
so any moogerfooger would work? even a murf?
I don’t know about the Murf actually. I’ve played it once in a music store, but I didn’t really look at it. all of the specs are on the Moog web site though. I know that both the Ring Mod and the Phaser have LFOs. Also the Control Processor has an LFO. If you’re thinking of buying a Moogerfooger and you have the Prodigy Mk II with all the jacks on the back you’re in buisness. You’ll be blown away by all of the ways that they interact with each other.
Particularly the Ring Mod and the Control Processor work great with the Prodigy. First, theres no Ring Mod on the Prodigy, so it’s kind of cool to have one on the side. But also the RM has an internal Oscillator (in addition to the LFO) that you can send into the Prodigy to give it 3 Oscillators (instead just the two on the Prodigy). however, this requires a modification of an audio input on the Prodigy (it’s detailed on that web site).
The Control Processor gives you a Noise Source and Sample and Hold which are lacking on the Prodigy (plus an extra LFO, and a bunch of other stuff).
Look into it. It won’t all make sense until you start using it and figuring stuff out. But trust me, you’ll be amazed…
holy crap,
here i’ve been playing these things with no clue as to the value added with the moogerfoogers. now i can see why they’re so expensive.
I second what Eric has said, even though I don’t know nearly as much 
I have a Rogue and a Ring Mod that I bought several years ago. Initially I liked the 102 for the whacky sounds I got by using it like a filter, running my Rogue’s audio through the 102. Recently I joined this forum and started reading around, and I’m amazed at all that can be done with analog synths and control voltages.
I thought the Prodigy had an audio input? If so, then the 102 is a great addition. If it has the CV Gate, anyways. I had the chance to mess around with a friend’s Prodigy for a few weeks before I sent it to him (bought it on his behalf since he didn’t have Paypal). I don’t remember all its features, since that was several years ago. I liked the sounds it was capable of, but wondered why it didn’t have noise. Seems like it would have been an easy addition for the synth to have on board…