I’ve been considering replacing the keybed on my Tribute Edition and wanted to know if anyone has done this before and how difficult it is to do. I’d also like to know if anyone knows where to get a keybed from. I’ve only been able to find full midi controllers but no keybeds.
There’s nothing wrong with with teh keybed…I’d just like something with some more weight to it. I have a CME UF6 and love the feel of the keys. I’d like something similar for my LP.
i have a LPTE, i dont know alot about the physical dynamics of keyboards but would it be possible to somehow “stiffen up” the key actuator assemblies and add weights to the keys? I always see reference to “weighted keys”. Might be easier and cheaper than replacing the entire keybed as you would probably have to retune the entire LP to the new keyboard. Then again maybe I have no clue what I’m talking about LOL
If you peek under the keys you will see that they are already weighted… there is more to the key assembly than the physical keys themselves; they are scanned by a keyscan circuit that is configured for the original keybed. It would be much less of a headache to figure out a way to add more weight to the existing keys. On a similar note, you could probably swap out the springs for stiffer keyboard springs as well. I think that the slots for the springs are a standard size, so if you could get ahold of 37 key springs from a board with stiffer action (or order stiffer springs from the supplier of your choice), then you could swap these out for a stiffer response. Stiffer springs will provide more resistance to your fingers pushing down, and heavier key weights will make the keys travel a little more slowly and bounce less when released.
Cheers,
Amos
PS) of course monkeying about with the keyboard like this is not so good for your warranty… I support your desire to customize your synth but I have to give this disclaimer anyway.
At this point I think I’m going to keep it all ‘original’. I don’t have the time or money to monkey around with it anyway…it was more wishful thinking. On a similar keyboard note what’s the timeframe on repairs? When I first got my LP I had emailed you about some crooked/uneven keys but didn’t want to send it in at the time because I was having too much fun. If I wanted to send it in now about how long would it take to get it back?
When I first got my LP I had emailed you about some crooked/uneven keys
LOL…suuuuure… they came “crooked” out of the box “a long time ago” …moog will surely trust that after a post like this, you certainly didn’t take apart the key assembly to poke around…
hehe, just messing with ya, i’m sure it did come like that
What about actually using a denser material for the actual keys themselves to add the weight during production? The stock keys are fairly cheap & thin. I really dig quality & the faces of the existing keys seem torqued or twisted slightly such that the tops of them across the keyboard is not entirely flat. Personally, I’d pay a few more sawbucks for a higher quality layout as my only real beef with the LP is the cheap keys.
Yeah it did…but it is kind of a funny place to post my question now that I think about it.
I emailed Amos right after I opened the box but couldn’t part with my new toy at the time. After staring at them for a few months the unevenness of the keys is starting to bug me (it’s the OCD in me) though I still can’t see myself parting with my new toy. They work fine they’re just not straight.
Exactly. Some of my keys also have more space between them than others. I have a back issue of Keyboard where they reviewed the LP Tribute and their review unit had the same issues. Keys aside I love my LP…it gets the most use out of all my gear. I barely touch my Voyager anymore.
It’s just a matter of personal preference. I prefer a heavier action. I find the LP to be very light and springy. I like the Fatar weighted keyboard used in the Virus KB. I like the feel of my CME UF6.
You’re not the only one. The keys on my LP have always been crooked as well - its most noticeable directly from the front. None of my other synths have ever had this problem. This seems particular to this keybed they chose for the LP.
I don’t even bother mentioning it any more as I always get shouted down as a “Moog basher” or a “hater” - nothing could be farther from the truth. I love my LP with a passion and have recommended it to others as well as creating a dedicated website for it at http://www.carbon111.com/moog_lp.html
I just wish the keys were straight instead of “snaggletoothed”
Hello there
i realise this is an old threat but i have a moog little phatty stage 1 for quite some time now; i really love the sound of it but recently the keybed is very noisy(the spring makes a lot of noise while i play) and it feels very loose.
Is there any way to change the key springs? i took off the sides and looked inside but i dont understand how the keys come off to change the springs. Is this a good idea or should i buy a new keybed for the little phatty?
Has anyone removed the keybed from the phatty, or even the keys one by one? Can anyone help? Ive send an email to moog customer support but they are yet to respond. I guess no one wants to deal with this
That’s my thing! I had the same problem with keys. I tried to fix it on my own and I completely failed it. I had nothing else to do but bring it to our local master, at that moment I thought that I destroyed it.