Quick Help dialing in a patch?

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Quick Help dialing in a patch?

Hey all:

I’ve had my phatty for a few years but as a bass player I still haven’t developed a full skillset for running a sorta complex analog synth.

My band is playing this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr8ng2Fa2Do

It’s a variation on the old folk song Gospel Plow. We’ve got a gig coming up in a few days..

The opening 1:10 has a droning synth note (E i think) that fades in and then sustains pretty infinitely.

I want to cop this tone if possible, and then fatten it up if possible.

Last night I dialed in something kinda like it, but something was missing.

I started with the “00” patch on my Stage 1, and made the following changes:

OSC 1 and 2 WAVE about the same and midway
OSC 1 and 2 LEVEL maxed
OSC 1 on 16’
OSC 2 on 8’ and then OSC 2 PITCH near maxed - trying to tune in 3rd or whatever that chord is

A bit less resonance and cutoff to tame it a bit

VOL and FILTER ENV the same - ATTACK 3’oclock, NO DECAY, SUSTAIN maxed, DECAY maybe 3’oclock

I’ll be playing bass so I’m triggering the note with foot pedal. Currently using EP-2 expression till I get a proper footswitch.

It fades in right, then sustains till I take my foot off, then fades out.

The tuning seems right, but something’s missing. Is it the timbre? I was thinking I dont’ have the right mix of waveform or??

Anyway, if anyone has 10 minutes to listen to the first 5 seconds of the song and give me some suggestions I would appreciate it.

Thanks!

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If you checked here 5 mins ago, you would have read a suggestion leading you down a pulse width modulation path (to increase intensity, fatness). I really couldn’t hear the sound you were talking about at 1:10 but then reread your email and noticed you said to listen to the beginning of the song.

If you’re talking about the drone in the intro, I think you can do this quite easily by selecting a single pole filter (instead of 4 pole), setting both OSC’s at 8’, both waves just above bottom around 430 each in precision mode, EGR amount at 3029 give or take, kb amt is at 2721, Attack quite a bit higher than 3/4s, and the frequency where you had it (max’ed at 4095)

I think the key is the single pole filter and a triangle’ish waveform. If you have a midi sysex player, I can send you the patch then let you tweak it to your liking. One key element is that I couldn’t get my patch as bright as the recording, likely some EQ is in order.

It almost sounds like a processed bagpipe (deep bellowing reed sound)

If you have Red Hot Chili Peppers, listen to the intro/drone on the song “if” on Stadium Arcadium, it’s a similar vibe.

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Thanks EM! Yeah I mean the drone during the first 1:10 of the song, so right at the beginning to clarify.

I fooled with the waveforms a bit more at practice last night, and got it sounding a bit better - it’s interesting how much that effects the “fatness”.

Were you playing the second “E” on the keyboard? That’s the octave I was playing - and on the octave selection I think either even up or second to lowest - I don’t recall. Sorry, my command of the keyboard is lame - I’m a bass player!

So I thought that the two oscillators would be on different “octaves” - I never tried having both on 8’ and that explains why my patch was a bit lower in tone. I’ll give that a try.

Changing the filter is a good idea - I’ll have to dust off my manual and figure out how to change it.

Thanks for taking the time to help a noob - I want to integrate the phatty and my moogers more into our stuff, I just need about 6 months off from work to figure out how to use it all. :slight_smile:

CM

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At 8’ and 8’, it’s the low E.

The Filter Pole settings are in the Advanced Preset menu under Master.

So on the patch you want to change it for:

  • press the master button (next to the preset button)
  • rotate the knob until you get to “Advanced Preset”
  • press the CURSOR button, then rotate the knob until you get to: “Filter Poles: x”
  • press the CURSOR button again, then rotate the knob until the setting is “1” (most patches have this a 4 or 2).

It’s a bit tricky to navigate through these nested menus.

Let me know how it works out.