As long as I have directions would be good to go. Considering the Performer is usually cheaper than the OS second hand, will probably end up with that if I end up with a Voyager. Still looking into the Dot Com systems. Lots of options. Going to look around YouTube etc for videos.
Found some videos of the Dot Com, sounds really good.
Would pick up a Realistic(Moog) MG-1 for around $400. They’re so basic though, afraid I’d end up frustrated with it.
They’re so basic though, afraid I’d end up frustrated with it.
maybe a Prodigy, but not a MG1- you have noise, sample/hold, auto-trigger, etc..- plenty to be entertained and entertain with
I had an MG-1 for over 30 years and I’ve never, at any time, felt frustrated with it. I’ve sold it only because it was in really bad shape in the end, and would have required many hours of restoration (removal of the dreaded disintegrating foam, oxidized switch contacts, missing plastic slider caps, defective divider chips, etc…). And instead of spending many hours on doing that, I preferred getting a brand new Voyager Old School.
Recently, a good friend of mine got his hands on an MG-1 for cheap, and restored it to like new condition. I went to see it after he was done, and was amazing both at the good job he had done, but also at the fact that I still enjoyed playing it. Like a pair of old comfortable slippers…
If you ever feel frustrated with an MG-1, because of lack of possibilities, then I would not recommend you buying a Minimoog D neither.
If you have your eyes on a Voyager or a modular, keep your eyes on the prize. The Voyager is tantalizing in a way that if you splurged on an impulse and got something you came across like the MG-1 or the Phatty…in the back of your mind you would still yearn for that Voyager/Modular.
Thats how I’ve been feeling about modular lately.
I’ve always tried to encourage musicians to shoot just slightly past their comfort zone. If they were interested in a 5 string bass, I’d suggest a 6 and state that after a year, they will wish they had that extra string. Get an instrument you know is going to take some time to grow into, and the Voyager is that. Don’t spend 800 bucks on a Moog Satellite just for that Moog fixation and then stare at the sweetwater catalogs Moog section until you can afford that coveted Voyager.
Eric
To be the honest, the ADS of the MiniMoog would frustrate me probably. I know, I should appreciate for what it can do. I do, and would. I didn’t used to be this way, the longer I’ve played with synths the more I demand from a potential purchase. Just looking at videos of the MG-1, I’d get bored with it quickly. Why I’m seriously thinking I should go modular. Harder to exhaust the possibilities with one of those. Voyager I’d be happy with too. Guess bang for buck factor, what it really boils down to. This is where someone runs in and tell me to shut up then and just buy a VA. 
I still have plenty of time to think it over, waiting for the car to sell.
Eric you’re right. Go big or not at all. Albeit, the Phatty I’d be ok with. I could get over the one knob/function I’ve been wanting. Just the annoying lack of built in noise as an audio source. Really if it wasn’t for that I’d be all on it. I know, can use the CP-251. In my sick little world that equates to too much work. Preset memories, ah yes have to patch noise in… 
Maybe I’m just being too picky…
man pay attention with Moog you also pay for the legend and marketing if you have not a lot of money you better look at dave smith instruments like tetra and prophet
there is many more modulation parameters and it’s polyphonic and you can have more functions like sequencing or some crazy functions for half the price of any moog’s… !!!
Moog is very expensive and they don’t give you a lot of things to do with they’re monophonic synth you will never play chords or even harmonic music…
but for bass n lead it’s the best for the rest you never can make it happend… and for just the price of a moogerfooger you can buy a dsi tetra or near the price so … there is many company who built analog devices moog is just the most popular but you must pay for the marketing for the people in wall street who invest in the company and want to be paid
If you buy product from independant company you pay for the material not for the marketing and all those advertising in magazines and all…
look at DSI, Omega or vintage stuff like roland, oberheim, yamaha, korg who make some crazy products you never find on a moog of today, …
the little phatty have 5 or 6 parameters you can modulate there is 42 on the dave smith for half the price and you have aftretouch n sequencer and more more enveloppes, assign parameters …
the LP have no velocity response they make a trick to play with volume but its far from a real velocity response… and the updates is long to come when you got a moog they don’t make any evolution with the OS and firmware it’s really
If you buy arturia plugins for 200$ you just need to put your output on a class A preamp and it’s exactly the same sound and the peopele who listen music in mp3 never will see any difference, …
DSI Mopho was a consideration. Then I was like, “Well, if I’m going mono shouldn’t it be Moog?” For THAT sound. The Mopho makes me irritated in other ways. The external power supply and the mod wheels are in the wrong spot, mainly no Xmod. I have my Roland analogue polys for chords and what not. Mainly wanting a mono for bass/lead. Bass on the Roland units is quite nice though, and leads can be good on the JX-8P. Maybe I’m putting too much stock into “the mono synth sound”. All the Mopho’s mod routing and features is tempting though. Now I’m getting distracted again.
Mate, you have to TRY them.
Possibilities are a thing.
Sound is another.
And interface is the last one.
The fun factor will come mostly from the later and you cannot really know till you had your ahnds on the knobs.
I had an Evolver last year. I had been looking at it since it was released or almost. I sold ot half a year after. Not fun enough for having me wanting to play with it. The Nord Lead, conversely, is a way more simple instrument but the interface suits me. The Phatty seduced me by surprise in a shop while I was not even planning to get one.
Nothing’s worth a trial.
I’m confused…you talk about the CP-251 being too much work, yet previously you were thinking dot com. Hate to say it, but a modular is WAY more work than using a CP-251 with an LP. 
So it’s all coming back to what is your goal for your instrument?
I mean for the price of a Voyager, you could get a Phatty and a Prophet PE module and have the bestof both worlds, all the synthesis with Moog sound and polyphony and still have some room to get a fooger to go along with it (depending on the prices).
The phatty has a digital noise source.
There are many options out there, the Oberheim SEM, the various DSI units, Slim Phatty/Minitaur, Studio Electronix SE1x, etc. Any of these you can maximize your purchase by mixing and matching that will equal the price of the Voyager, but it’s just a matter of what you really want out of the instrument.
The only thing about going modular is that you need some real deep pockets because your system is never really complete lol, and there are many brands and formats there to choose from, and you can get some great synthesizers for the price of the Voyager.
For that matter, going with a fully contained synth in a smaller form like a Phatty for the Moog sound, you can put together a set of supplemental modules just catering to complex modulation to take the place of where the Phatty leaves off, and then when you are ready to sell another car (heh) you can expand.
Theres really a lot of wiggle room.
Eric
It is too much work. Have to patch in noise with presets, that’s ludicrous. Patching in noise into a non preset modular is fine though. Don’t ask me why, but that’s how my mind operates. If the LP didn’t have patch memory either I’d be ok with it. Yes, I know this is mental. No, I can’t help it.
I’m wanting massive bass and leads that mono synths are known to have. All hands on control would be nice, but I’m used to not having that. The Rolands have me covered on analogue poly stuff. So, that’s really what I’m needing/wanting. I know the Phatty has noise as a LFO source, couldn’t find anything about as an audio source. Unless…maybe noise as a LFO source, and turn the LFO all the way up into the audio range…maybe. If I were able to play with things that’d help to sort things out. Then I could decide for sure. The video series of Jordan Rudess and the LP, had me really wanting one. Back before I was so picky. This one in particular: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hufwMENvhI Just the basic sound, before adding in the Freq Box is nice. Can only imagine how good it’d sound in person and not over YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVzTSsV-goc
Found that while listening to some LP videos. A few of the patches clearly have noise as an audio source. So maybe my thought of using noise as an LFO source and turning the rate up into the audio range works then. If so I can buy a LP and not have anything to bitch about.
if I put this much thought into every instrument I bought, I’d be sporting a straight jacket…but that’s just me…
I’m very, eh, particular when it comes to the these kinds of things. I research the Hell out of everything. Have spent the last few days watching various videos and reading up on various reviews, manuals, and what not. Not having the ability to try in person first I kind of have to. Before I had bought synths in the past, only to be sorely disappointed and turn around and sell them quickly. I try and avoid that as much as possible now. Think this is bad, should see me shopping for cars.
Think this is bad, should see me shopping for cars
hahaha! well, at least you’re on the right track towards a synth that you’ll have to live up to , verses a digiturd that you try to polish…
I actually like digital, when it’s being digital and not trying to be something else. Have a Yamaha SY77 that I just love the sound of. I got it solely for the FM engine of it(DX7 on steroids), but the samples are actually quite nice for being 20+ years old. Analogue is my first and true love though.
You are almost certainly missing out on unexpected delights because you research so heavily before buying. Because you are limiting the choices to that which you already know. Take a chance, buy something you aren’t really sure about. Learn from things which you didn’t think were useful. I don’t think any experienced synthesist picked their gear by masterplan. There’s always a timeline of disappointing purchases, sales you regret and then repurchase, and gear which totally changed how you even think about music.
Your passion for synths is priceless and while your wallet isn’t, I say seize the day. You will grow more by committing yourself to make music entirely from something you struggle with, than from non-creative doodling from an ear-gasmic synth in which all the sounds are golden.
How do you know what’s right for you? That’s right, no one including you can know that 
Cheers,
B
Also, especially for the foogers, Moog tends to suffer from not having any really good youtube demos.
Maybe you’re right. Instead of over analyzing everything to death, just go for it. Not in my nature though. I do know I want a mono synth though. I think it’ll help to reinforce me as a musician. Force me to play in a different style. I like the idea of a challenge for once, honestly have been kind of bored with music lately. Same old same old, what drove me to “Hey, why don’t I go buy a Moog?” Change things up and what not. Part of why I want something with no patch memory, force me to make something new each time. Try to rekindle that immense passion I had when I first started.