Phatty presets on the voyager?

Hi everybody.
I’m new to this forum, but I’ve been watching it for a while now. A very good idea from moog’s management.
I own a Little Phatty, and I think it’s a fantastic machine! I just love it!
Since this is my first moog, I really got a hang of the moog sound. I were just wondering if the LP patches could be transferred from the LP to the Voyager? I’m asking this because, as i said, I really like the moog sound and I’m considering buying a Voyager instead. But I will not give up my precious patches from the LP, whom i’ve been laying hours and hours of work into.

Thanks for at great sound. And by the way, congrats with your new president(I live in Denmark, and have been watching the election all night).

I suppose it would be possible, but then you wouldn’t be making full use of the Voyager. The Voyager has 3 VCO’s instead of 2, like the Little Phatty. I’m not too sure how the SysEx files would transfer from one synth to the other, either. Perhaps GregAE or RL or Amos could help out with this?

Our president is cool again.
this hasn’t happened since the 60’s

Yeah, Really! :laughing: Let’s hope he does everything he promised! Although, there’s about 20 years worth of cleanup Bush left. I’m not too sure how an administration was able to trash a whole country in 8 meager years. :confused:

Hi
I know the Voyager is much more extensive. Thats why I’m thinking of buying it. It will be exciting to hear my LP patches with a third oscillator or some heavy FM! Im not about to spend 4000 $(about 22000 Danish kroners) on an instrument i do not know anything about. But yeah, Im thinking of the SysEx transfer, could it work on the Voyager. Will there i.e. be a problem when you send a LP preset with arppegio?

Hi!

I would keep the LP and buy a second hand Voyager RME.
So you have two voices instead of one and keep the investment under control.

Greetings from Germany,

Frank

Hi JJ,

IMO, if you can afford it, your best option is to keep the LP and get a Voyager. Although both instruments share a lot of circuitry, there are some key design differences that give each instrument its own unique sound. On the LP, perhaps the most striking difference you’ll notice comes from using the Filter Overload circuit, which the Voyager doesn’t have. If you’ve programmed patches that make use of this parameter, you won’t be able to replicate them on the Voyager.

On the flip side, the Voyager has a lot more to offer compared to the LP: three oscillators instead of two (the third oscillator can also function as an LFO), more modulation routing options, dual filters that can operate in two modes (LP-LP or HP-LP), stereo outputs and considerably more storage for patches than the LP (7 banks of 128 patches). The Voyager also has a full compliment of CV routing jacks on the back panel, and provisions for CV expansion, which allow the Voyager to become the foundation of a modular system if you decide to pursue it. The Voyager costs more than an LP, but then you are getting a lot more.

Another thing to keep in mind is that both the Voyager and the LP can be configured to work together as a duophonic system (or polyphonic when more instruments are added), making the whole greater than the sum of the parts.

If you can swing the cash, keep the LP and get the V.

I would like to add this though…

Over time, when you really begin to learn more about synthesis, you understand WHY your sound is the way it is. With the exception of the Filter Overdrive as GregAE mentioned, you are using pretty much the same building blocks. So even if it is technically NOT possible to transfer your prescious presets to the voyager, eventually you will get to the point where you know how your presets were built and can replicate it easily on the Voyager.

THe only difference will be that Maybe the LP oscillators are a descendant of the Voyagers so the timbre will sound slightly different.

As far as Filter Overdrive is concerned, some people use the headphone output into the external audio input to overdrive the filter MiniMoog D Style.


Respectfully,
Eric

Thanks for the reply.
I am at that point where I have knowlege about synthesis, and I know I can rebulid them on the voyager. But It would be so much easyer if I could move them by SysEx. There’s a lot of paches to be moved, since I have altered almost all of them… and I use some of them in my music.
I know I will get something different from the voyager than from the Phatty. I guess I have to choose, the Voyager or the Phatty or both(and less money for food). :open_mouth:

I don’t know if you really can move them though because each knob has a midi value and I think that since the LP has more of an all analogue signal path then there would have to be some kind of translation between the knob per function Voyager and the delegation of the LP.

Netherlands huh? I swear the Europeans are even more appreciative than we are in the US when it comes to vintage synths!

Maybe, since your currency probably is worth so much more than the dollar, you can find one from the USA (or used) which will be half as much as you woudl pay for it there brand new.

I paid 2999 for a voyager select AND a vx351!

HOpe you settle on something and still have some room to eat, although the Moog will sustain the universe indefinately!


Respectfully,
Eric

I’ve been looking all over for a used Voyager in Denmark. But there are none. Denmark is also a very small country, about 5 mill people. So i guess there aren’t alot of people willing to sell thier voyager here. Denmark is not in the Neatherlands though, but in scandinavia. Just above germany. :wink:
But the problem with importing it from US will be the taxes, it will end out costing almost the same as in Denmark.
I guess I have to go on a diet :laughing:
But thanks for your reply.