are the differences just cosmetic, or do they sound different from one another?
cosmetic. But if you really want to be nit picky, because of analog circuitry, no two machines sound EXACTLY alike 
Wait the anniversary does have that extra pot…
That “special” extra pot…
Does anyone know if it’s possible to “Pot Map” the Anniversary editions extra Brightness knob?
Could be used as an additional hands-on controller
Mal
I don’t think so. I mean you probably could via the software w/an option to disable the brightness adjustment thereby giving you a free pot to assign to whatever it is you want to control. But it’s not possible now.
I think you’ll find that the AE Panel Brightness Knob is a dedicated (i.e. hardwired) control.
If there is any spare capacity in the A/D-D/A circuitry then it would theoretically be possible to integrate this ‘extra’ control into the Front Panel schema in the software - but this would require additional software (conditional checks, and processing) to then differentiate between AE and non-AE MMV units and provide knob processing facilities as required.
The MMV hardware/software ‘model’ has, no doubt, given Moog something to ponder on with regard to new keyboard products. Lessons to be learned perhaps, but everyone will benefit from this process with the next synth offering.
My estimation would be that AE owners have a Panel Backlight Brightness control - and that is it.
KevB
Kevin
My guess is that the brightness pot goes to a seperate “lighting” PCB board via flying leads and is not connected to any of the main boards . . . . as this is a retrofit.
Personally I think the extra pot on the AE looks ugly, perched on the end of the keyboard . . . and using a non-standard sub-sized knob (it’s actually quite close to the end cheak and diffecult to turn without getting your fingers jammed), it looks like a home modification to me . . . like my Rivera modified Minimoog D (which I am about to Unmodify!).
Wouldn’t it have been cleaner to put it on top of the panel next to the BNC connector?
Mal
The back light control (given that they made it variable) had to go somewhere - put it next to the Light BNC then it’s a “special” on the case drilling (i.e. hole required only on AE versions - or needs to be blocked-off on all non-AE models).
At the moment the metal casing seems to be standard across all MMV versions but the woodwork is variable between versions (besides which the woodwork is more ‘aligned’ to the “hands-on” part of the manufacturing process).
Hindsight from those of us who don’t have any actual involvement in the manufacturing/design process can be wonderful, can’t it.
The control of the Panel Backlight could have been made a menu option (like LCD contrast) and 5 real-time control knobs (albeit for skinny fingers) could have been incorporated into the right hand keyboard end-piece.
KevB
Kevin
i understand your point but I reckon the panel casework must have been moded to get the luminance to work through the front fascia (?) . . . if you are going to go to that trouble in re-manufacturing, surely one drill hole aint going to make much difference?
Still looks like a home brew mod to me . . . a trim pot would have been cleaner . . . or take a leaf out of apples design books and have a small glowing, breathing touch plate . . . the longer you leave your finger on it the brighter the panel glows.
Mal
OK - I guess the control might have been put where it was based upon some perverse ‘performance control’ concept.
Some ‘key player’ (pardon the pun) might have suggested that it would be a really good thing to be able to manually control the panel brightness during a performance (to hopefully distract attention from the bad playing perhaps !).
Perhaps not though.
I think the backlight control positioning probably came from somewhere within Moog - unfortunately the person that suggested it (and those that passed it through to design) were not performance musicians, or this wasn’t a concern.
Any area near/adjacent to the keyboard should be dedicated to real-time performance controls.
Lot’s more could be discussed, but…
KevB
the light control is placed perfectly if u ask me. it doesn’t look ugly, it functions well and its position means moog didn’t have to alter the case metalwork. they couldn’t have done it any better. purists may differ but i want the voyager to sound and look great and it does both better than any other monosynth ever made.
the light control is placed perfectly if u ask me. it doesn’t look ugly, it functions well and its position means moog didn’t have to alter the case metalwork. they couldn’t have done it any better. purists may differ but i want the voyager to sound and look great and it does both better than any other monosynth ever made.
the light control is placed perfectly if u ask me. it doesn’t look ugly, it functions well and its position means moog didn’t have to alter the case metalwork. they couldn’t have done it any better. purists may differ but i want the voyager to sound and look great and it does both better than any other monosynth ever made.
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I agree with whoever said that the light control knob should have been placed near the lamp connector, although there is a slight possibility it could be snapped off, especially when you tighten your gooseneck lamp using pliers!
u guys are missing the point. mounting the light control would add more labour costs for moog as the metal case would have to be altered specially for the a.e. i can’t understand why there is even an issue about the light control. who says that all controls placed near the keyboard should be performance related. performance controls are placed by default to the left of the keyboard, the light control is on the right. as i said in my previous post, it is perfectly placed and does not get in the way. hindisght is a dangerous thing and in this discussion it is pointless.
Hey, I thought this was a free speech forum?
We are all here because we either own a moog, are about to own a moog, dream of owning a moog or have owned moogs in the past . . . we are all coming from the same place, no one here is diss’ing moog.
Someone answer me this then (Steve, Bob, anyone at moog), goldphinga you talk of 'more labour cost if the case is altered", so how have they got the panel to light then? Is it via some form of luminous plastic under the fascia laminate or have they had to remanufacture the metal case to allow LEDs to shine through? If that’s the case then surely it would have been relatively easy to put a knob elsewhere . . . and haven’t they had to add labour cost in getting the new timber panel machined?
My point was to do with esthetics and detail . . . I know why it ended up there (It’s the simplest and cheapest solution), I don’t need to be told, I just wanted to hear other peoples reactions.
I am not fused about performance controls being near the keyboard . . . they are there because moog put them there 40 odd years ago but for other manufacturers that’s not always the case.
Personally, I don’t think any discussion is pointless . . . if you find such discusion pointless then don’t reply to it