I can’t find this in the MP-201 manual, so I will ask you guys.
my goal with the MP-201 is to get rid of all my expression pedals. 4 in total.. hey, there 4 buttons on the thing. Cool…
I never want to use more than one of my expression pedals at once. So, my question is… is there a way on the MP-201 to make it so that when I step on a button, in quad mode, it turns whatever else was on to off? For example, since I only want one exp at a time, I want the MP-201 to start up with one of them on, then hit another button and have the first one turn off… etc… one at a time mode. Does that exist?
Unfortunately if it doesn’t exist, I can use the thing. What I do is very on the fly and, knowing myself, I wont remember to hit one button off and the other on and I will end up doing 2 things at once which would ruin my performance. PLus it’s just too many taps if I have to hit one off and one on… I might as well just keep my 4 exp pedals and be done with it.
I pray there’s a way to do this or maybe it could be added in firmware. I suspect not, however. The complexity of the MP-201 doesn’t seem like it would enable something as simple as this.
That could totally be added in firmware. It’s easier than you think.
I will add it to the list.
All firmware updates from Moog are free of charge, so when there is a new firmware version you can just download it from our website and install to your Multi-Pedal via USB.
Any other votes in favor of a “one channel at a time” performance mode?
Yes! I think it could be very useful and would cut down on tap-dancing. The trick is that I would want it to hold the value of the expression pedal when things were switched off and back on. So, if I set channel 1 with the expression pedal and switch over to channel 2, then I want channel one to hold the value. Additionally, after I’ve adjusted channel 2 and I move back to channel 1, I want channel 1 to still have the value that I set before moving to channel 2.
I think your suggestion takes it a step further, and would be cool as an option. BUT… that way of thinking is WAY more complex than what I proposed, simply because it will have to remember all the settings AND some sort of soft takeover would have to be implemented so there isn’t a big jump when, say, you stop the pedal midway, switch to another channel, put the pedal all the way to toe, switch back to the first channel and move the pedal and your setting jumps from midway to toe down HARD. know what I mean? of course you do, otherwise you wouldn’t have thought of this in the first place.
I personally DON’T want/need it to hold the value of where it was. I just want the pedal position to be sent as soon as I switch to that channel. that way I can preset a move that’s going to happen and then switch to it.
I hadn’t thought about it your way. I’m not sure I would be very good at getting the pedal into the correct position before hitting the switch. I need the audio feedback to know what I’m setting.
I think it could easily become something complex when we start riffing ideas.
What woudl be nice is if someone could invent some software that was alot more customizible in addendum to the OS that would allow you to NOT utilize a certian feature but turn it on should you get the idea to.
That way you could get your basic use out of the unit but the software would allow for advanced expression options.
You might have someone that can hit buttons like bass pedals!
I, too, would purchase the Multipedal if it had this function. In fact, the ONLY reason I haven’t bought one yet is because it does everything EXCEPT this!
Hey Brian T… I would think that the audio feedback wouldn’t be AS necessary if the thing you were controlling were set up in such a way that you knew what the outer limits were. Ex. I use an exp pedal with my Line 6 M13. I set the delay so that one end of the exp pedal does one thing and the other end does another thing. I put the exp pedal where I want it and when I turn the delay on it’s doing the thing I programmed. What situation would require audio feedback? can you give me an example?
and it doesn’t help you to just set the highest and lowest points of the pedal to your 2 settings that you can morph between? or just use a tap tempo for the delay? R u using moogerfoogers? or something else.
your music sounds GREAT, by the way… nice playing.
You can’t use tap tempo for the delay. Tap tempo is for LFO speed and the delay time is set by a fixed voltage, not an LFO. Having two ‘presets’ (heel and toe) could work, but it is a bit limiting, no? I’ve played around with that on my DL-4, but it never really seemed all that useful to me.
Thanks for checking out my music. I have a bunch of new stuff in the pipeline that I think is both stronger and better recorded.
I guess it depends on what delay you’re using. The M13 accepts tap tempo midi cc’s, so… I got a midisolutions “beat converter” and made the midi clock on my RC-50 send tap tempo to my M13 so I can sync delay times.
if you have no midi input on your delay or your delay doesn’t accept a cc for tapping that won’t work. But… the MP-201 sends midi clock, so theoretically I could tap a tempo on it and have the clock from the MP-201 made into a tap cc for the M13 as well. I don’t plan on using the MP-201 like that but it could be done. So… the tap tempo on the MP-201 is not just for LFO. it could in fact clock your entire rig if it all had midi.
I don’t find it limiting to make 2 “presets” on a DL4 or M13 and control that with an expression pedal. In fact it opened up a whole world of things for me to think that way because of the morphing that occurs between the 2 AND the accuracy of the presets… but… maybe you don’t use your’s like that. I didn’t hear many effects on the first 2 cuts of your cd preview that I listened to. How are you using ring mod and delay when you play?
Sorry that I was unclear. I use the Moog 104 delay. I was hopeful that the MP-201 would let me have tap tempo, but there are a few technical obstacles that keep that from happening.
I didn’t hear many effects on the first 2 cuts of your cd preview that I listened to. How are you using ring mod and delay when you play?
It depends which you listened to. The Favors and Friends’ CD has a lot of Moog stuff on it, though it is typically on the background stuff or making nosies. If you check out the sixth track on that CD, you’ll hear the ring mod on the main guitar. My acoustic CD doesn’t have any Moog stuff on it.
I use the Moog stuff all the time in the studio for a TV project I’m working on.
The Moog engineers are pretty much all on board with this feature; we’re sorry we didn’t think of it first!
Anyway what we’re looking at doing right now is really simple… think about how it and tell me if this would work for you.
We’re thinking about doing this basically as an option for Quad Mode… so quad mode would have a choice of working exactly like it does now, or (the new option) exactly like it does now except that turning on one channel automatically turns off the previous channel. Remember the radio selector buttons in old car stereos? (some folks might be too young to know what I’m talking about) – like that.
So, as far as what the pedal does when you turn on a channel now… this would not change. The way it works now is that expression channels have an “initial value” that is programmable, and that’s the voltage that gets output when you first turn on a channel. Then whenever you move the expression pedal after that, the output snaps to the real pedal position. One-channel-at-a-time mode would work the same way.
As far as channels that you turn off, meaning the previously-active channel if we are talking about one-button mode, what should happen is that the output of that channel stays at exactly whatever it was when you switched channels. In the case of LFOs, you have different “off modes” that control what the LFO does when a channel is off. It can freeze at its last instantaneous value, can turn off completely, or can keep running as an LFO, only with no further influence from the expression pedal once the channel is off.
So let me know if a set-up like I just described here would work for you guys.
Well yes, that is certainly the idea. I am thinking something in the utilities menu, like QUAD MODE: (mono) or (poly)
poly is the current quad mode,
mono is one button at a time.
Amos, that would be simply grand! Actually, I am too young to remember the car radios of which you speak, but I have seen them in junkyards, so I have an idea of what you describe. Works for me!
