Now the Sequencer...pleeeaze??

Anybody disagree with the need, even the necessity of an analog Mooger Step Sequencer or equivalent, y’know…at this point in the Moogerfooger series? If anybody has that ‘design thing’ swirling around inside their inventive minds, and can envision such a creature, IMHO I think it could be a nice first step to show the fine folks at Moog that it is indeed possible, desirable and quite probably, another little cash cow just awaitin to come out of the barn. Any thoughts? [pro or con]
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I would buy at least one.



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yes, we know. you buy of everything at least one. you make that perfectly clear everytime you post. :unamused: :wink:

I pay cash for everything too.

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analoghaze: what do you use your double ups for? The 251 is obvious: more modulation. But how about the rest?

Stereo rig?
Multple instruments?
Multiple settings?

For instance: how useful is a ring mod after a ring mod?

Hey.

I doubled up most the Moogers because I do run in stereo.
I love the RMs on LOW setting, so it just acts like a trem.
I sequence 4 different synthesizers with my Nord G2. Each one sounds better after going through Moogers. So counting the G2, there are 33 outputs from various synthesizers here.

Most of the synths here have stereo outs… so 2 Moogers help.

I have the ability to use MULTIPLE synthesizers at the same time with MIDI. I process each as I want. I use a mixing board as well. So I can have one synth going through the RM’s another through the MuRFs and so on.

I use a Q Plus for pads and drones, the MuRF’s are great for this.

I experiment with alot of different set-ups, and route audio and CV in as many different ways as I can. I have run Ring Mods in series, and it can sound really cool on different frequency settings.

Sometimes I just use effects to see what types of noises are avaible.

I can understand how people can see it as obsessive, but… this is a Moog forum, if I cannot find refuge here… there is nowhere. :sunglasses:

I admit, I love my set-up.
I love Moog sound and build quality.
There is also a very good chance I will buy a Moog product that I feel is worth it to me. But as far as me saying that in “every post” is just not true. I have helped a fair number of people here without stating my desire to purchase a Moog sequencer. I have also had countless people help me, and I could not be more thankful.

If someone starts a thread stating “It would be cool if Moog made a …” I may chime in and state… “hey I would buy one… or two” So what? But it is by far not the only thing I have contributed.

thanks for asking… have a good weekend… and enjoy using your Moogs!

uhm..
i meant that you made it (=that you buy of everything at least one) clear with your signature. it has a lot of (x2)'s.
that’s all.
good luck with your rig! i would love to be able to play around which one like that! :stuck_out_tongue:

Cool. You know, it’s time to change the sig I think. :sunglasses:

I think that a sequencer that can be controler via midi with the pc will be great. Some kinkd of control via PC to Moogerfooger (like the LP)!!!

we still need an envelope generator first.

then we can sequence the 107, filter through 101, and effect to your heart’s content with all the other foogers!

So sequencer + env gen + midi to cv all in one box???

that’d be really cool, but i think it’d be unlikely to see all three of those in the same unit. The ENV Gen + other cv controls in one box, then a seq w/ midi-cv in another seems possible though. A moog seq would be cool, although admittedly it’d have to be pretty impressive to usurp my Future Retro Mobius. :slight_smile:

My 777 is running right now. :smiley:

I have a feeling if Moog did decide to do a Sequencer that it wouldn’t be as overall “perfect” as the Future Retro devices. That being said I think moog would try to do something different or innovative with a Sequencer that nobody has ever done before…like ever…something bizarre and interesting that might change the sequencing world!

I would like a step sequencer which had 8 to 16 sliders like the MuRF. There would be a rotary dial that would allow the user to select a variety of algorithms where the steps would be sequenced in different modes and/or scales. Each slider would be calibrated and could tuned to a different pitches in the scale selected. There would also be a global pitch knob allowing the user to change keys. Another control knob would be like the MuRF and run different patterns. Another set of sliders would be used for gate. The outputs would be CV. I could see this contained in a CP251 kind of box. And of course this step sequencer would be under $350.

I agree: a moogerfooger sequencer would really be very useful.

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MarkM, I like a lot of these sequencer ideas you have. It would be cool to have it housed in the CP251 enclosure, if not one the size of two CP-251s side by side (so that it could still be racked). Have you seen the Frostwave FatController? A couple of things I’d like to see borrowed from that model, are the ability to have two seperate eight (or less) step sequences running parallel, that can be sent out to different devices, or just A/B’d for variation. Also, I’d definitely want to see chunkier sliders than the Murf ones, which I’m not a fan of. Of course this is going to drive up the cost, but for a device that’s going to be used for sequencing things like pitch, you’re going to want sliders that are more spaced out, and offer more resistance. Your scale selector idea is cool, and an unquantized option is definitely a must for people who want to use this thing for sequencing filters and other effects. I definitely don’t want moog to waste their time and my money with built-in sequences or patch memory, though. If I’m buying a sequencer it’s to play my own patterns, and if the interface is solid, there shouldn’t be any need to store patches. On a sequencer like the mobius, yes, it’s essential to be able to store your own stuff, as the interface just doesn’t allow for quick, on the fly sequencing, but on a tactile device with a slider for every step, and the ability to lock the sliders into a particular scale, as you suggested, I really don’t think it’s necessary.

I think if moog makes a sequencer they should use the MuRF casing as the guideline for sure. Maybe they could set them up in a way so you could have the sequencers sync w/ each other. That way you could have a 8 step that goes into another for a full 16 step loop. The patterns could be user rewritable like on the Future-Retro Mobius, stored by a lithium battery? perhaps (or anything else that works better). Knob for rate, knob for global tuning. Maybe the ENV knob could be replaced with a glide knob? another knob could be used for controlling the directional traits of the pattern, such as forward, reverse, forward+reverse, etc? they could go for more originality with more interesting variable pattern control too with odds/evens / evens/odds, or random playback modes. this would be very exciting for players of all kinds. Admittedly not as approachable as the mf-101 or something, but i think it’d be pretty easy to pick up as well as being continuously challenging and useful for more experienced analog enthusiasts alike. :slight_smile: