Newby here!

Hello my fellow Moog users. I’m new, new here, and to the synth world. I’ve played guitar forever but fell in love with Moog by accident. I love the music from Planet Terror and hope toget all those 70’s horror movie sounds.

In a few days I will have a brand new Moog Voyager Mohagany fire, Cp-251, Ring Mod Mooger Fooger, and the Analog Delay Moogerfooger. Right now my pedal board is 100% digital which is about to change for good. I’m super stoked right now. I might even get a few more of the Moogerfoogers and Moog guitar just because I’m crazy!

I live in Seattle and would love to meet other Moog users. Maybe you can help me get started, and show me the ropes of your set up. I’m brand new to this so I would be extremely thankful. :smiley:

Alien

Welcome to the forum! You must have won the lottery. For someone being brand new to synths, you came to the very best of them. What better way to cut your teeth in synth programming than on a Moog…the Select Voyager and all of those accessories, no doubt.

You may be yearning for the Vx351 very soon for those Voyager outputs.

Hope to get to know you. Feel free to ask any questions that you may have about anything and everyone here will be glad to help. You may want to check out the Voyager training DVD and the MoogerFOoger training DVD. THey will provide lots of insight.

Congradulations!

EricK

Thanks for the warm welcome! I was thinking of getting Motif, then I was thinking of pulling the trigger on a Virus TI. It was actually my brother who suggested I look into Moog. I’ve always been a digital musician so I wrote it off at first, that is until I watched some youtube demos of Moog and Moogerfoogers in action. There’s something so different about the way that a Moog sounds compared to everything else. It hypnotized me and I new I needed a change in my musical direction. I’ve never played piano or a keyboard (and I make minimum wage) and I through down some serious $. That’s how obsessed I am. I was plannign on paying off my car, oh well.

Yeah I will also be getting vx351 as soon as there not on back order.

I do have a few questions if you don’t mind.

What keyboard amp should one get? I have a killer guitar amp but know nothing about keyboard amps. I think I might need one with a effects loop.

Does it take long to get use to playing on a Moog? It looks kind of difficult.

Is there a particular Moogerfooger pedal besides the Ring Mod, Analog Delay and Cp-251 that you cannot live without? I’d like all but for now want only the best.

Thanks!

Moog difficulty,
Well theres nothing to get used to..tweak knobs push keys. The principles of analog synthesis though has what I think is an excruciating learning curve. If you have ever spent any time on a softsynth like Arturia MiniMoog or the Modular then it will help you. I cut my teeth (still cutting) on the MicroMoog, and honestly (and crudely), Ive spent many many many many hours on the toilet with the MicroMoog Manual. :laughing: Basically, just like any complicated technique on an instrument youll make progress in months and years. Like eastern Philosophy, you can go back and read the same lines you have read before and understand it on a different level.

THere are a lot of resources out there for people with vintage moogs and I would really sit down and try to find any of those old manuals written by Tom Rhea (friend of Bob’s and co-engineer). Those old manuals can be a real headache to grasp but (in my opinion) are loaded with a lot more technical information than some of the modern Moog manuals and written in a way that as your understanding increases you will get more out of them. I would find the old Minimoog or the Olf MicroMoog manual for some of the basics about analogue synthesis, as well as reading the current manuals over and over again.

Im not trying to make it sound difficult, but its essentially physics. THe MicroMoog manual has a synth tutorial and many sound patches and that helped me, so if you read the voyager manual or the Fooger manuals and they tell you about a patch then get patchcords and do the patches. Really, getting used to this type of synthesis involves not only reading, but practice.

I would strongly reccomend the DVD’s because they give you a grande entry level discussion. Advanced synthesis techniques are like Jazz because you will always learn something.

Most importantly, just have fun, be patient. Its really not all that hard once you understand WHY everything does what it does. SOmetimes I think I know exactly how something is and I try to help someone out and then someone comes along and makes me realize that I was thinking about it the wrong way. THats what this forum is for.


go to moogarchives.com, click on instruments, then modules, nd read the technical information contained there. The functional description as well as the musical description will definately give you enough stuff to read and absorb to last you a long time. In my opinion…all roads lead to modulars.

There are a lot more people on this forum who know so much more than I do about synthesis so just lurk, ask questions and don’t be afraid to make connections…no pun intended. HOpe you got plenty of patchcords!

Eric




I like the Roland KC series they are really powerful for their size. Its a matter of preferance and whether or not you are trying to gig as to what your requirements are.

Foogers I can’t live without…

Well I thought I woudl regret buying the freqbox at first, I also though Id regret getting the delay after I got it. You know what…I can’t live without either of those. THe Freqbox I think (serving as an extra oscillator) is choise. Its all just a matter of opinion. WHen I first saw the Fooger line I didn’t think I would ever want one at all. THen the more that I learned about them the more that I realized how beneficial they are. I really can’t reccomend one though I think that if i had them all I couldn’t live without them.

HELLO! Glad to see a new synth geek around here (i use that as a term of endearment of course lol)
i think you will be VERY happy with your Moogs, and sure Moog will be VERY happy with you buying so much lol.
programing synths from scratch can be very difficult at first, just dont get discouraged. you will occassionally find settings that dont make any sound. i think moogs are very easy to learn on but can also be the most complicated master.
I also second the choice of the roland KC amps, great sound sound with lots of power. i like to run my synths through guitar amps, too, to get some different edgier sounds

Yeah I probably going to get the Roland, I just wish it had an effects loop. I see a very expensive hobby getting out of control in the near future. :laughing:

yeah if it had an FX loop it would be brilliant. it easiliy goes out of control. i try to justify it as an investment :smiley:

I think that the 600 dollar KC series has an effects loop but Im not sure.

Yeah synths can really put off a lot of people because if you have the filter cutoff set a certian way then it won’t get a sound. The Micro used to do that alot until I learned how to get it back on lol. I played the Phatty at guitar center and there was no sound and I thought it wasn’t plugged in, then I said “Oh its a Moog.” I reached for the filter and turned it up, reached for the amp and turned it down and boom, I got a sound out of it again. Synths can be like a Rubix cube for the uninitiated lolol.

THe voyager and the delay both have an effects loop.


Eric

So you can run Moogerfoogers into the effects loop of the Voyager to get more sounds without annoying hiss? :blush:

ooo i didnt know the voyager had an fx loop

The Voyager has an external audio input on the OSC mixer section which also serves to add an effect after the mixer section to process the oscillator sound prior to entering the filter.

So you can take any of your guitar pedals, distortion, phaser, chorus, ect, or any of the foogers like the delay, phaser, murf or Ringmod and process the oscillators prior to the filter.

THe delay has an effects loop so for instance you can put your ringmod in the delay loop so each delay will be further ring modulated.

Go to the products section of the main website, click on one of the products that you bought and look for the tab that says MANUALS and you can pull up the manual on a PDF so you can get started reading the manuals for your gear before it arrives.

I just got finished watching the Voyager training DVD again…it helps to give me a temporary fix until I get can another Voyager.

Eric

lol yeah ive got all the fooger manuals

Just to let you guys know "MY VOYAGER CAME YESTERDAY!!! :smiley:

It’s amazing!!! :open_mouth: I’ve only gone through some of the presets and I’m already super impressed!! :sunglasses:

Viva La Moog!!! :astonished:

i envy you… :blush: lol no, but congrats!!

Welcome to the forum.

Do you gig, or a home musician?
I am a home musician. I use a mixing board and near-field studio monitor speakers.
Get the proper cable to use the mixer out/filter in jack on the Voyager.
All the Mooger pedals are cool.
This is a Moog forum, so tap us for info.

Info on the mixer out/ filter in jack here:
http://www.moogmusic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=26534&highlight=#26534

Post some pictures of your Voyager! (thread here)
http://www.moogmusic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4783&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

I really like how the phase sounds in the loop of the Voyager.

Here is a direct link to a FreqBox in the loop of the Voyager. This is “only” a demo. (I did) It is done on a “crappy” digital camera, so please excuse the not so great audio quality. It is enough to get an idea of what is happening though.

If you would like to see and hear some more demo sounds I have done using my Moog equipment, please look at the link below. There are demos in both the main section and in the “music” folder. Thanks.

http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff51/analoghaze/

thanks for viewing.

You’ve found the right place to talk Moog. :sunglasses:

I’m a home musician looking to gig in time. I’m a guitarist that’s starting to branch out into the unknown world of synth noise. It’s pretty fun. It all started was I got the first uber distortion pedal. :sunglasses:

Let’s just say I’m in way overmy head. :wink:

Someones got that Moog glisten in his eyes!

Welcome to the forum, on the real now that you got your Voyager!

I now pronounce the man and Moog! lol

Youre not in over your head, you are on a great journey of the principles of analog subtractive synthesis. All roads lead to Modular :wink: :wink: :wink:

Are you refering to a Moog Modular? The super rare expensive ones? I rather get tons of other gear then spend that kind of money. At that point I’d just go software. :stuck_out_tongue:

That glisten is now on getting my Moogerfooger or possibly a Andromeda if I can find one in this God forsaking country! :confused:

I have a Voyager and Andromeda… awasome combo.

Totally different beasts.

The A6 is unreal. It is incredable.

Do you know where I can get one? Is there any other new Synth that you would recommend? :question: