i use to record every bloody idea i had. and than I bought this little monster, and than I suddenly stopped thinking about my next songs or albums or anything like it : now i’m just playing and enjoying the sound of my instrument, exploring the possibilities ..
I finally got a chance to play around with an LP and Voyager at the same time and I was surprised at how different the sound was of the two instruments. The sound of the voyager was impressive, no doubt about it. LP was ok but the sounds that I got out of it didn’t seem to measure up to the voyager.
Mostly I just used the presets. Are the presets of the voyager just better than the LP presets?
What accounts for the big difference in sound between the two instruments? I know the voyager has an extra osc. and a more complex filter, is that it? Or does it have more to do with the the design of the oscillators or how the digital control interacts with the analog circuits?
Well I wish I could answer that question. Ive only SEEN an LP I 1 time.
First, the Oscs are different. Just like the Freqbox Osc is “a descendant of the Voyager Oscs” the Phatties are as well.
Other than that, Id be speaking out of the side of my mouth if I tried to answer that any further.
I think its really a matter of preference though cause when you OD the filter of the LP then it gets pretty nasty. I don’t think id ever turn that off if I had the opportunity.
…presets are merely storage of (mostly) front-panel settings… the whole point of having those knobs in front of you is to use them as you play to modulate the sound… makes it so very human, etc…
I use the LP and my non-note playing hand is as busy as my note-playing hand with all the switches, buttons and controls…
BTW, I would absolutely recommend getting the EP expression pedal for it and plugging it into the cutoff frequency CV in… makes a world of difference, as that is usually the parameter that you want the most control of, most often.
Think of the LP as a fine guitar that you can coax many different sounds out of with both hands and feet. best, jgirv
I’ve owned both a Voyager RME, LP tribute and currently a SEII.
Gotta be honest, they don’t sound all that different. Provided you discount the overdrive feature on the LP, and the third osc on the Voyager, the only really noticeable feature is stereo lowpass filtering w/ spacing options on the Voyager. Go mono and compare to the LP. There is obviously also modulation options that don’t exist on the LP as well to consider, so naturally the patches sound different.
I can’t comment on the physical analog structure of either unit, but just from ear I’ve always kind of felt they are quite close to each other in timbre when it comes to osc and filter.
::edit:: one more thing to consider: voyager has a noise source to mix w/ oscs. this opens up alot of different sonic opportunities as well.
Gotta be honest, they don’t sound all that different.
Well that’s the answer I’m looking for since my chances of getting a little phatty are a lot better than getting a voyager. But even if price wasn’t an issue, the size and weight of the LP just works better for me.
Are there any good youtube or other comparisions of the LP vs. Voyager? Or maybe even a good thread that compares the two? I’m not so interested in the feature comparison, I can do that with the manuals, but basic sound. How close can the two instruments get when you use features that both have? Could the average person close their eyes and know which instrument was playing?
I have a Tribute and a Voyager. I have used them together performance wise, and they are quite close in sound. However, there are some simple patches on the LP I just can’t duplicate accurately on the Voyager and vice versa.
This might seem like a travesty, but my LP has been sitting in its case for many months unused because the Voyager handles most of my lead duties. Before I got my MPK49 controller, the LP doubled as a lead instrument and controller. The MPK49 is much better at controlling, and there was redundancy of sound with the LP. I try and keep equipment to a minimum (which is still a lot) when performing.
As mentioned, one of the big differences between Voyager and Phatty is the dual filters and spacing control. When in highpass mode the spacing control can really make even more of a difference. I could be wrong, but I believe the highpass filter and spacing unit results in a bandpass filter. It’s nice having the option of two separate outs or a mono out.
Another big difference is the CV input capabilities of the Voyager (not to mention the optional VX351). The effects input before the filter is another great feature of the Voyager.
The overdrive on the Phatty is really a great feature I wish the Voyager had. That alone really creates a sonic difference between the two.
If I didn’t have to have so much hands on tweaking when performing, I might have chosen the Phatty for my lead instrument. It’s smaller and lightweight. I do use the third osc. frequently, but I could probably work around that. The sound of the Phatty is close enough to the Voyager, and therefore I would still sound like me when performing.
I spent a good 3-4 hours in Guitar Center the other day. Based on what people have said and the specs and reputation I was excited. After an extensive play on it I am BLOWN away!!! I wish I had my latop with me to record some of what I was doing, quality, word class basslines in seconds. I had a play with the Prophet 08 and Nord Electro too and the LP sound trumps the both of them. Sure the Prophet has some amazing features on it but the warmth and ease of use on the LP has got me drooling. My tax returns should be in my account this week and I bought some new monitors and a M Audio Fast Track Pro to accompany my new baby. On a very small downside I was slightly disappointed in the quality of the plastics used on the knobs and wheels, I was expecting Bentley but felt more like Hyundai. It’s not a big deal, the sound is whats important but would love some heavier knobs. Are these available?
Any word on the ReKon editor release?? It is early spring but no word on the ReKon website, actually nothing to do with the LP whatsoever. I would make full use of this and the sooner it comes the better. =) Has anyone used the controller that was posted on this forum??
My new LP will be used as my go-to synth from now on for all my dubstep basslines and other grime / electro stuff that I do.
I’ll also be using it as a great analog filter for other audio material, the overdrive feature is great. I’ve been messing around with the audio input and the filter overdrive, and to my ears it sounds a bit like an Electro Harmonix big muff pedal if you open up the filter all the way, reduce the resonance to 0, and crank the overdrive. And then you can tweak the filter and it just sounds amazing.
sweet. your intentions are the same as mine then =) Can’t wait to get it on my monitors. All the kids making crap noise in Guitar Center muffled my sweet b-lines. I really feel I can use it for waaaay more than basslines now. hurry up tax return!!!
I have a decent number of synths, analog and digital (tho mostly analog) and out of all of them, the Little Phatty has become my go-to machine for bass. The dirtier, the better…