I’ve scored a smoking deal on a SE voyager w Ver3.3 firmware.
Had a D in the 70’s and sold it for food/rent in the 80’s. Always wanted a replacement and this is it.
Now I don’t remember if I could do it on the D but I know I was doing it with my old ARP 2600.
How do I route a Square CV to the VCA? I can’t find anyway to do it. I am trying to run the output of my Hammond through a LFO swept filter and gating the output with another LFO square. (Think ‘Won’t get fooled again’ by The Who.)
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Hi there!
You need an external LFO, e.g. from the VX-351 or another source, to trigger the keyboard gate (trigger input). Set the On/Ext. Switch to External.
Thanks for the quick reply! I’ll try to patch in the CV from one of my Arps tonight!
Can’t you use the pot mapping with a square as the source and the Master Volume as your programmable destination?
Are both of the LFO’s going at the same rate?
Eric
Hello,
You would patch the Hammond’s output into the external input on the Vger, adjust the gain in the mixer accordingly, use the Vger’s own internal lfo to sweep the filter, then patch (via a 1/8" to 1/4" cord) a square wave from the one of the 2600’s oscillators in lf mode to the envelope gate (or volume, if you have the Vger’s env gate switch on “external”) on the Vger’s back panel.
You could probably also do this with a Fooger MF-101 + CP-251, if you
wanted a fixed setup just for the Hammond, that doesn’t require an external synth. The lfo rate for both waves on the CP-251 would be the same though.
Regards,
Lawrence
See, Im thinking that all you have to do is, since you have 2 modulation busses on the Voyager is set up one to sweep the filter cutoff. THe second one is routed with a squarewave to the programmable destinatinon to the Master Vol. The only thing about this is that both the cutoff and the master volume (a form of tremelo essentially) will go at the same rates.
Now if you just want to use the Voyager as a processor, then with 1 mod bus sweeping the filter cutoff, you can set Osc 3 (lo freq) to modulate the programmable destination (master volume) with a square wave.
This way, you don’t need a cp251, vx351/2, or another Synth to do this.
Wouldn’t this work?
Am i missing something? Is it necessary to fire the Envelope of the VCA or are you just wanting a square wave effect.
Eric
Ok, I can not map a square wave to the master volume on the SE
It’s not in the software.
Pot mapping just maps the pot, not the CV generated by it.
A mod bus destination isn’t possible. I can only go to OSC 1,2,3 level, Noise level, LFO rate FQ and FSpacing or Pan. Nothing to the VCA Level or Gate.
If I still had the 2600, I wouldn’t need the Vger in the process. It was easy on the old modular.
The 2 LFO’s needed are at very different rates. 1 is a sine wave at around 10cpm and the other is a square at 240cpm.
I can get the LFO out of one of my string ensembles. ( I put patch bays on one of them. )
With all the mapping and possibilities of the machine, I guess that Tremolo was ignored in favor of Vibrato. (That I can do in spades!)
I’ll still do the intro Throb to “Welcome to the machine” on my Omni. It’s perfect for it. The Moog for the noise and electric sounds. I was just trying to port over some of the other old songs to the Vger. (I’m getting most of “Frankenstien” bits done. Nice to be able to switch patches and not need 2 machines for it!)
I’m not in the mood to buy a bunch of pedals as additions right yet. Maybe just build PAIA or MFOS bits and use those modules as external sources. I want to build a discrete analog sequencer/arppegiator, anyway.
Thanks for all the help, though!
Can you perform a software update to version 3.4?
Okay, I just looked. THere is no programmable destination for Master Vol, but there is a pot mapping. That must have been what I was thinking of.
However,
If you are running a mono output from the Voyager, what if you made a squarewave to the programable destination of Panorama. THat way it will pan to the other side thats not hooked up, thereby giving you the squarewave effect on the master volume that you want.
EricK
THat won’t help yourLFO problems.
Probably a cp251 would serve your purpose (and others) nicely.
Eric
Here’s a VCA that might help, I’ve got one myself:
http://www.fullcompass.com/product/280074.html
Pretty cheap too (although it’s basically just an opamp in a case…).
I’ve found a way to do what I was trying to do with out any off board processing!
There was a preloaded patch (Abrasive Wheel) I was playing around with and went to real panel mode. When you do that, all the EDIT MENU settings from the patch you were at previously are still in memory. (so it seems!)
Well, it was opening and closing the VCA at the LFO rate. What I was looking for! I went through all the settings and found:
“Vol. ENV Gate SRC” was set to “S&H Gate”. This was doing what I needed. Yeah!
It was a simple matter to use OSC3’s sine wave to modulate the filter and a few minutes later I was running the old A-100 through and doing The Who’s thing again!
A nice MOOGASM on a saturday!
Thanks to all for your suggestions!