NAMM 2017 - Moog Music

hi, i am looking for new moog synths such as bfam from namm 2017 videos on YouTube. But i cant find any news. have you got any information?

Thisi is all I’ve seen up to now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_CqTQOkfzE

Beautiful tribute.

bfam was Moogfest 2016 VIP engineers only & is not going into production

Nightmare! I have been searching new equipments from MOOG for nearly 4 months on YouTube and now i can see only a “Beautiful tribute”.

Why rush things just for NAMM? When Moog is ready I’m sure it will be worth the wait.

Why rush things ? Because other companies, like DSI and even newcomer Behringer now, are doing what Moog Music should have done a long time ago: they offer great sounding polyphonic analog synths, but none of them have that “Moog sound”, that’s why.

I have no desire whatsoever for a polyphonic Moog. If want polyphony (analogue or otherwise) I have more than enough options already. I’d rather Moog stuck to doing what they do better than anyone else - producing superb, well-crafted no compromise, monophonic analogue synthesisers.

Of course there was the Polymoog, but I hope they are not going to venture down that dead-end track again.

I should add that we’ve never had it so good from Moog. They are producing exactly the right products IMHO, from fully-featured modular systems, through exceptional soloing synths (Model D, Sub 37) to the excellent, Eurorack-compatible and very affordable, Mother 32 mini-modular system.

I want Moog to stay on this course rather then being distracted by producing a polysynth that will probably not meet the inevitably enormous expectations.

Don’t tell me that a modern and updated 8 voice version of the MemoryMoog (without all the problems of the past, due to the limited technology back then) wouldn’t sound appealing to many Moog customers ?

It may appeal to some, but not to me, or to others who look to Moog to be the absolute masters of one trade, rather than just another jack of all trades.

The Memorymoog was very experimental for its time and somewhat problematic in its architecture and design - a poly version would probably be even more problematic unless you were willing to sacrifice most of the ‘analogueness’ of the design.

Well, as Moog has already bitten the Eurorack bullet, I’d like to see them offer some Eurorack modules to fill up those empty rack spaces. Filters and oscillators obviously, but the complex envelopes from the Sub-37 would be a huge draw for me.

Why couldn’t we touch the new Mini?. :question: :question: :question:

It works. It’s wonderful. It’s worth not paying some greedy dealer $5k+ for a Mini that might have problems down the line. It could have gotten best in show like the OB6 did last year.

Yep, Moog Music’s booth was empty this year… And not many people were stopping by either…

:smiley: Maybe something big is coming up on the horizon…

Usually the NAMM show IS the horizon… :slight_smile:

And if not on the horizon, there is always something big coming some time with Moog :slight_smile:

NAMM 2017 had a couple of cool innovations. I don’t think its ready for prime time, needs more tweaking, but the VR addition on the Deepmind 12 is a cool addition in instruments. It was hilarious watching people trying to use the VR on the DM12. The DSI Rev 2 sounded ok, but felt like ground hog day with more voices. The WOW factor for me this year was the Relic-6. Did you guys see this 18 year old’s Synth entry into NAMM … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJPsG_ws6LQ … AMAZING!!!

We’re hoping that one day SOON, Moog launches a POLY

Yep. Essentially an OB-X in a box (version 2017). Pretty impressive work for such a young man (with a small team behind him possibly ?).

In the wake of getting to be Moog Music, the organization experienced different changes of proprietorship, in the long run being purchased out by melodic instrument maker Norlin (who additionally possessed the Gibson guitar organization at the time). Norlin created various synthesizers under the Moog name in the late 1970s, yet they were less fruitful than Robert Moog’s own particular plans.

I wouldn’t say so. They produced The Source, which was and is a great sounding Moog synth, the Prodigy, which was produced at 11000 units, and also the Memorymoog, which was a stunning polyphonic machine (despite all its shortcomings), and even outsourced to Radio Shack with the MG-1, another very popular and affordable little synth with a great sound. The only “failure” was the Polymoog. Not because it wasn’t a great machine, but the R&D astronomical cost (that proprietary Polycom custom chip design) wasn’t recouped with sales.

Bob Moog only really designed the initial modular systems and, much later, the Voyager. Every other Moog Music synth was designed by someone else based on Bob’s ladder filter and oscillators. The Minimoog was the brainchild of Bill Hemsath. The Source, Memorymoog, Prodigy, The Rogue, Taurus (1 and 2), and Liberation, which kept Moog Music alive during the late seventies and early eighties, were all designed in large part by Dave Luce and his team. Ironically it was also a synth designed mainly by Luce that sank the company, the Polymoog.

Maybe that’s the reason why the current Moog Music is reluctant to go into the polyphonic synth market, yet again ?

Bob was pretty much out of the synth design loop under the Norlin banner. Norlin put him to work on guitar amps and accessories, which Bob wasn’t too excited about.

Bob did design the Satellite but that was before Norlin, as well as the 3046 oscillator board for the Minimoog. He also designed the Synamp, rackmount EQs, and string filter but they are not synths.

The Polymoog had a lot of people excited. Although it was fully polyphonic, it has a master VCF so it is a paraphonic system. A TOS system by nature has a limited palette since there is no way to implement voice modulation. Dave Luce didn’t understand that distortion could be a good thing so he designed high fidelity into the PM which weakened the sound. Many customers were less than thrilled when they heard it. The assignable voice polysynths (CS80, P5, SEM polysynths, etc) put the PM to shame.

The Memorymoog was intriguing engineering with much better potential, but flawed execution - too many inferior components in the wrong places.