I’ve notice that there’s a parts election and a “More” tab and I expected to find how to set each individual part volume because if you’ll notice on the dual parts one is sometimes drowning out the other.
I guess when you design the volume levels you can set that but it’d be much more convenient to have a volume control for each part. There’s not a knob unfortunately but they could add a setting in an OS update.
Weird I can’t edit my own post to fix that word “selection”. The “Edit” option is gone. I wasn’t logged in but why would they remove the “Edit” option for a guest? Anyway it’s my post and not a “Guest”.
Yeah by combining multiple timbers into patches they created a bit of a catch-22, do you set the final vca level for the timbre so that it plays well individually, or do you set it to balance with the other timbre in the patch? I think the way around it would be to have a ‘dual mode balance’ parameter in the voice control menu.
I guess if there are patches where you want to be able to dynamically change the balance you could use the mod matrix to assign the macro knob or expression pedal to the vca levels of each timbre (with opposite magnitudes).
Now that you mention it I think a saw a patch demo using the macro to gradually bring in the second part. I might have been dreaming that.
They did say whichever voice is “lit” when in dual mode you can edit the parameters individually so that’s how you can flip between turning them up or down. So make sure both are not lit when wanting to change one of them.
Doesn’t the VCA level knob accomplish this?
It can during patch design, but if you want to change the balance as part of the performance it doesn’t really work. I say ‘can’ because It’s also not ideal in the case that you’ve designed timbres that you want to use on their own as well as in dual mode; in that case you want the timbres levels optimized to be played alone, which might not be the levels you want at all in dual mode.
steve_moog does it not work because the knob is too far away? It doesn’t change the tone of the sound. I like your idea about using the macro knob.
It’s because to effectively adjust the balance you need to adjust the gain for both timbres, so that’s ‘turn knob, hit button, turn knob again’ etc, and while you’re doing that each time you touch the knob the gain jumps to whatever the knob value was from your last adjustment rather than adjusting smoothly from the current value. It’s just not a practical way to make adjustments mid performance.
The macro knob setup works, but obviously it takes the macro knob out of commission for anything else. I haven’t found an occasion where I want to change the detune control during performance, I almost wish they had assigned that knob to dual mode balance instead. If they did that I’m sure someone would ask for detune on a knob though, so in the end what’re you gonna do?
I got sneakily logged out. Anyway last comment was my reply to CP3_lover_420
maybe the panning knob could be used for this purpose
Yes. Since I’ll never want to pan real time maybe they can reallocate the pan to do performance part volume.
Does anyone pan in real time? I thought that was an odd knob to have. I can understand design pan better. Same thing with detune in real time as mentioned.
Probably have to assign a pedal to volume but that wastes the pedal.
Real time parts volume is pretty important, odd no Moog designer thought of that.