With the RME is it possible to route the LFO (or osc3 for that matter) to multiple destinations?
I don’t own an RME, but it looks like you would have to use a VX-351 for the LFO out and the mult on the 351.
… and use the yet to be released VX-352 to route back into the RME? Ahh, I should have got the keyboard version.
What’s the hold up with the release of VX-352? The RME has been out for some time now.
I asked moog and they replied
“the VX-352 is still in the planning stages and will not be avail for some
time…
We are planning on introducing it in the first quarter of 2006.”
Hmm. Sounds good for RME owners and looks like more than just a VX-351 clone for the RME which is what I thought it was going to be.
You can already route either OSC 3 or the LFO to multiple destinations.
There are two mod busses to start with… Osc. 3 and the LFO (tri and square) and sample=and-hold at the LFO rate, are available on both busses, and each bus has its own unique destination. OSC 3 has a dedicated OSC 3-1 FM switch, so that gives you a third possible simultanious use of OSC 3 right there.
Keep in mind that both in the RME and Voyager keyboard, and on operating systems from at least 2.5 and up, both modulation busses have a “programmable” setting on the mod destination dial, and there are many many more modulation destinations than the panel would indicate. Same goes for sources. Investigate the depths of the Edit menu, it is your friend.
Happy tweeking,
Amos
A detailed article on the Voyager Modulation Bus was posted last month on SquareWave.
Find it here:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Squarewave/files/*%20Voyager%20FYI%20*/
The file is called ‘Get on the Bus.pdf’.
There’s also diagram of all the Mod Bus options at:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Squarewave/files/*%20Voyager%20Reference%20Pages%20*/
The file is called ‘Modulation Busses.pdf.’
Hope this helps.
Greg
But are there more modulation possibilities with the expanders?
Nope. The RME’s modulation features are the same as the Voyager Keyboard. Same mod busses, same pot mappings. But the modulation possibilities are truely vast…
G
Nope. The RME’s modulation features are the same as the Voyager Keyboard.
The RME is missing the touchscreen. It works killer for controlling delay time and such.
True 'nuff, but the RME also missing the other performance controllers i.e. pitch and mod wheels, and lacking a keyboard, is missing self-generated keyboard performance CV’s like key pitch, velocity and AT. These parameters are all programmable through the Mod Bus and Pot Mapping, just like the Voyager.
Here’s what the RME manual says about the Touch Surface:
“The Rack Mount Voyager has no Touch Surface. However, there are CV/Gate inputs on the Accessory Port that can be programmed, just like the outputs of the Touch Surface of the keyboard Voyager. Like the Voyager, when the Touch Surface Gate goes high, the front panel controls for the T.S. destinations are turned off, and the X,Y, and A voltages determine the values of the destinations. The forthcoming VX-352 will feature these inputs on 1/4” jacks.”
G
OK, I look under the bonnet and see lots…
there are something like 338 LFO/osc 3 static routings.
And there is something like 40x41 possibility for each pot mapping,
so I worked this out to be 300,313,002,990 dynamic /performance modulations. Multiply these up and yes, like the manual says “mind boggling.” And that is not counting performance. But the other side of the coin, these are mostly slow modulations and lots of them are obscure. A far smaller number are are just modulating the texture and and even smaller number are also 2 levels deep. The keyboard version definitely has a big edge on the slow modulation possibilities, but it sounds like experimenting with midi parameters and pot mappings will go along way towards covering the difference in analogue controls. BTW my ears are on holiday.
Over 300 billion dynamic/performance modulations?
Where is this data coming from?
Are you talking about the Voyager?
From the manual. 40 sources, 41 destinations that is 1640 possibilities per mapping and there are 4 mappings, use the n C r formula. There are going to be lots of symmetries that will reduce down the true figure, it is an over estimate. Practically, some would be silly because they would be useless for a solo performance. Restrict it to two controls and a more conservative estimate is 78990600 possible performance routings. None of these figures is counting the amount parameter and direction parameters in the pot mapping. Coming up with an accurate figure for all routings is a project for a statistics student. Many synths have alot more wave shapping modulation routing possibilities, a bigger mod matrix or more slots. I guess it is whatever you are used to, I am new to Moog so still learning.
I see!
My Waldorf Q has an astonomical amount of modulation routings.
Cosmi -
There are 40 sources and 40 destinations available for Pot Mapping on a Voyager Keyboard. Checking the original RME user manual (OS2.6), I found the same number of Pot Mapping sources and destinations available.
Are you sure that there are 41 destinations? Did something get added in OS 3.1 for the RME?
Greg
The Q is cool. 40, you are right, it still makes for a vast resulting number. I am not going to correct my calculation. Which mods are worth trying out… pitch, filter, rate and shaping are interesting.
Yes,
The Q lacks continuously variable waveforms. That is one of my favorite features on the Voyager. Waveform modulation produces some amazing timbres. And it’s analog 
I think maybe what he was asking about was the VX351/CP251 combo in usage with the Voyager. If those expanders give you more modulation possibilities than the internal programming…