# Moog Sub 37 vs Subsequent 37 vs Grandmother

**URL:** https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/moog-sub-37-vs-subsequent-37-vs-grandmother/21784
**Category:** Controllers Forum
**Created:** [November 29, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/moog-sub-37-vs-subsequent-37-vs-grandmother/21784 "2021-11-29T14:47:30Z")
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### Author: ![ikeleini](https://forum.moogmusic.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/b5a626/32.png) [@ikeleini](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/ikeleini)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/moog-sub-37-vs-subsequent-37-vs-grandmother/21784/1 "2021-11-29T14:47:30Z")

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Just sold my Mother-32. Loved its sound, but I need a synth for live performance(bass, sequencing arpeggiator) my REV2 has got me covered in Poly for pads etc, I currently don’t have the time or space to invest in a Eurorack. I’m trying to sync LFO’s, arpeggiators to Ableton clock etc. So that’s why I gave up the M-32 instead of getting a controller.

I have the opportunity to buy a Grandmother around $700. Sub 37 at $900 and Subsequent around $1100. (All used)

I am pulled in all directions. I feel like the wisest thing is to get the Sub 37…but the Subsequent leaves me feeling like there is something better for only $200 more.

I do love the sound of the Grandmother, maybe more than the 37’s, I’m telling myself I need presets, because I’m used to having them on my Nord and Rev2, but this may not be true

Thoughts?

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### Author: ![stiiiiiiive](https://forum.moogmusic.com/user_avatar/forum.moogmusic.com/stiiiiiiive/32/235_2.png) [@stiiiiiiive](https://forum.moogmusic.com/u/stiiiiiiive)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2021, 10:25am UTC](https://forum.moogmusic.com/t/moog-sub-37-vs-subsequent-37-vs-grandmother/21784/2 "2021-12-01T10:25:44Z")

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Welcome to the forum 🙂

First question is the one you’re asking yourself at the end of your post: do you _need_ presets.  
Only you can tell. If the answer is yes, here’s something you may want to know.  
The Subsequent 37 is different from the Sub 37 on these points:

- Higher headroom of the mixer and filter in order to have clearer duophonic patches and a wider variety of saturations
- Redesigned multidrive drive circuit: can be dirtier and has more options.
- Better headphones amp.
- Better keybed.  
I think that’s all, but anyone correct me.

All my other thoughs are not really relevant here, you must have had them before 🙂

EDITED.

[Differences in sound between Sub 37 and Subsequent 37](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS8syO7u0fY)