any1 can comment on the Moog Song Producer?
http://www.sequencer.de/blog/?p=131
http://www.matrixsynth.com/blog/media/Moog/songproducer/
some1 using it?..
I know only what was posted on some blogs..
any info, since this is the moog forum ![]()
any1 can comment on the Moog Song Producer?
http://www.sequencer.de/blog/?p=131
http://www.matrixsynth.com/blog/media/Moog/songproducer/
some1 using it?..
I know only what was posted on some blogs..
any info, since this is the moog forum ![]()
I just bid on one without the software, not sure if Iāll get it or be able to use it (who knows when Iāll bother to get a c64).
Looks like it could be a lot of fun, though. Wonder if it could run standalone as a midi-to-CV box? That would be great, although I highly doubt it.
Itās useless without a C-64 and probably even more useless without the software.
I have one, but Iāve never used it (no C64). It doesnāt run as a stand alone MIDI to CV box, although that would be really cool if it did. I paid $100 for mint in box Song Producer a few years ago, so keep that in mind when bidding.
I ended up winning it for $11.05 (shippingās $30, though). It will be useless for now, but maybe someday Iāll get a C64, and I can probably track down a disk image of the software before then (I.S. - Iād definitely be interested in buying or trading for a copy of the software if you can make one). If not, not too much of a loss.
Well, it didnāt go above 11:05, so now Iām jsut waiting for it to arrive and to find a disk image of the software. Weāll see. If nothing else, I can probably ebay it again in a few months and make back most of what I paid.
Looks like theyāre going for $100-$200 for complete packages, so even if I had to pay a bit for software itād be a decent deal.
Well, that was quick. Took less than 2 minutes to find the software, another 15 to download an emulator, make sure the Rom worked, and get every conceivable utilkity I might need to get it transferred back to a C64 should I come across one.
Just in case anyone needs it, the softwareās here:
http://users.telenet.be/avatar/MOOGSP.D64
Wow, good job on the price and finding the software so quick!
Kind of makes me want to go find a C64 nowā¦
Same here - I donāt actually have one yet. Found a place that sells manuals for 8 or 9 British pounds, so Iāll have to get one of those at some point.
Here are a few pics of my Song producer setup.
It should be noted, the song producer is not a MIDI to CV unit. It can
output 8 analog drum triggers with no velocity, for use in MIDI sequences.
Or in sync mode it can divide an incomming clock out the 8 outputs.
Or the MIDI command mode for program control of a MIDI synth setup.
Incluning splits, program changes.
Using a Commadore SX-64, a portable self-contained C-64.

Here is a typical setup, using a Drumfire analog drum synthesizer.

The Startup menu.

The drum edit screen.

The MIDI command screen.

The Sync command screen.

Moog Songstepper message.

Very advanced for 1984, but today?
Terry
Yeah, I figured that it couldnāt do midi to CV, but one can always hope. But to cut to the chase, any chance of scoring a copy of the manual from you? Either scans or I could pay for photocopies. Iām trading for a C64 on Thursday, and the Song Producerās on its way. All I needās a manual and the parts for a serial adapter so I can transfer the software from my PC.
hey, i got a c64 and wanted to get a moog song producer. anyone have one they want to let go off? if so, hit me up at aziomatic@yahoo.com
gratsi,
az
Well, Iāve got the c64, song producer and software (which I havenāt gotten onto floppy yet, still deciding what approach I want to take with that since all of them seem to requre custom hardware), jsut looking for a manual still. Probably just end up ordering one.
At this point Iām honestly a lot more excited about the possibilities of the Prophet64 (http://www.prophet64.com), honestly, but the song producer looks pretty great. If itās not limited to a single channel per output, it will actually be the most flexible midi interface I own, I think![/url]
Prophet64 cart is still on the way, but in the meantime, Iāve got a solid lead on another free c64, so looks like in the long run Iāll be running one c64 with the Moog Song Producer and syncing the second one to it via DINSYNC or MIDI (depending on how much effort I want to put into building hardware from scratch; probably just a simple DINSYNC box will do it for me), maybe sync all that to a computer. Probably wonāt get around to really perfecting that setup until next spring, though; in the meantime Iāll focus on using one or the other at any given time.
Ghost, i think youāre setting yourself up for a big disappointment. Iāve heard not but bad things about the Moog song producer. Stuff about the software not even being complete, even that the manual suggest you finish coding the software yourself! Moog released it quickly right before they went out of business in the 80ās. Unlike most Moog gear, it is not a good product. It just a very crappy MIDI sequencer, you canāt even play the beautiful C64 sid chips. Theyāre just sitting right there going to waste!
I just hate to see you disappointed after putting a lot of effort into setting it up.
Yeah, but Iāve only got a few dollars invested in it, and itās not going to do anything that I couldnāt do from a laptop if I really wanted to. Itās more of a project than anything.
Iāve heard bad things about the software too, honestly canāt imagine it being good simply because of the limitations of the c64 hardware.
On the other hand, IU really like working with limited equipment, so thatās only making me more curious. I jsut donāt want to spend any money on it.
More interestingly, this guy mentions playing sound directly the SID using a MSP-equipped c64. Seems to good to be true.
Iām pretty sure it just a sequencer/MIDI interface/drum something-or-other. I donāt know what that guy is smokingā¦
If you were feeling a bit masochistic and knew whatever dead software language the Song Producer was coded in, I bet you could rig something up. But I canāt imagine that would be very fun or rewarding ![]()
Hey, you guys didnāt take the āGeek Tourā to this page:
http://www.ghastlycomic.com/geekroom/gr-08.html
He claims he uses a program M64 to access the SID synth.
The Moog Songstepper is very buggy on my system. You have to save to
disk very often as the next command could freeze up the system and
you have to reboot. Glad I only paid $5.00 for mine back when there
was a seller on Ebay selling these every week. Said he had a wharehouse
full of them. Not sure if Moog ever sold these to the public?
People seem to pay crazy prices for these because the MOOG logo on it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110032241366
Terry
My god, you have got to be kidding. That makes me sick to my stomach. I love how the auction states:
āA real masterpiece of moog history!ā
A donāt even know how to respond to that. Its too ridiculous to even be called ignorance.
Thing is, I saw someone else on a totally different website also claim to have used it to play the SID directly.
Anyhow, Iām curious enough to fire it up. If it isnāt useful for anything, I can at least make a disk of the software and resell it with that, which should make it go for more than the $10.50 I paid. Either way itās a winning situation.
EDIT: actually looked at the page you were talking abou; Iād jsut kind of assumed that the software you mentioned was something heād coded himself, nmot something freely downloadable. Thanks for pointing it out!