Moog organ masquerade

Heya- I’ve been playing my Voyager Old School in a 60s-esque garage band- Of course the sound they’re going for predates synths, so I had to get an organ sound out of my Moog, haha! If you’re interested, here’re a couple tunes I recorded live at rehearsal:

http://www.moped10.com/images/WARREN.mp3
http://www.moped10.com/images/BABY.mp3

I couldn’t help messing with the filter a couple times, haha, and the pitch wheel, but otherwise it’s pretty close to a Farfisa, eh? :mrgreen:

The Phatty is GREAT for organ sounds. The only organ I can’t seem to emulate is a Hammond B3. I can get an L100 sound, which is close, though. With some menu-diving I’ve even been able to get a pretty good church organ sound, too. That’s cool that you got that from a Voyager OS! :smiley:

Predates synths? Are you sure it’s a 60s band, and not a 19th Century ensemble? :wink:

Predates synths? Are you sure it’s a 60s band, and not a 19th Century ensemble?

har har
I should have said, predates keyboardists with capes, eh?

Don’t be afraid to let loose and sound synthesizer-y writing 60’s-esue music- There’s Moog all over the Beatles’ later material, lots of other bands got into modulars towrd the end of the decade!

PS- I don’t have any speakers at work; I’ll listen at home tonight! :slight_smile:

Don’t be afraid to let loose and sound synthesizer-y writing 60’s-esue music

I guess I misinformed yall it’s the style vs the era, if you catch my drift!
This band does well gig-wise, and wanted a “rock organ” player, so I got the spot, but only me and the rhythm guitarist really know what I’m playing is most assuredly NOT a rock organ!

and hey museslave, you’re in Asheville? if you ever want to swap shows let me know! (I’m in Wilmington) I’m trying to get one of my bands a side show up there during Moogfest, or at least just me in my skeleton suit solo…

All right, I hear ya! Please excuse my tangent :blush:

All right, I hear ya! Please excuse my tangent

haha- no need for excusing, and hey it’s Friday night! go plug up that sweet new VOS of yours and make some noise!

Forgive me if I might be preaching to the choir, but there’s a few tricks to getting good organ sounds from synths.

Simply put, you should have a highly resonating filter with little or no env, but exactly tracking the keyboard voltage and tuned to emphasize the tonic, 2nd or 3rd harmonic of the vco sound.
The vco is best set to something like a square or if possible, a square/sine mix. (not often possible, but just saying.)

The amp’s env should either be a straight gate (no attack, no decay, all sustain) or with a very slight decay.
With no attack or decay, lowering the sustain to emphasize the percussion feature of the organ helps a lot too as it can mimic the keyclick or percussion of a B3.
Of course no matter how good an organ one synthesizes on a monosynth, you’re still not going to be polyphonic and that can be frustrating.

I never had a large Hammond like a B3, but I had an L102.
Then, the frustrating part was the shorter keyboard and lack of the same percussion the larger Hammonds had.
But I got a great sound by overdriving a Boss CE-1 chorus box since I had no Leslie or tube amps.

A Hammond through a tube amp can be a beautiful thing. :slight_smile:

A Hammond through a tube amp IS a beautiful thing…even the factory installed tube amps and built-in 12" speakers sound awesome in an L100. My uncle had one, and he modified it to have an effects loop, where the organ ran through a chorus box, Small Stone phaser, and delay (sorry, don’t recall the delay he used) before running back into the organ’s built-in amp.

That is AWESOME! Sounds like you grew up in a family of audio geeks. I envy that!

My uncle was…my dad’s thing was hi-fi stereos. And cars. Still is. My uncle had quite the personal studio, though, including a 1971 System 15, several vintage guitars including a '61 Danelectro longhorn bass and a '59 DC, various vintage amps, including Vox, Danelectro, Marshall, Gibson, Fender, and Crate amps from when Crate amps were built in to wood crates. He had a couple of electric pianos, but one was used for parts to keep the other one running. Not sure what happened to all his gear. Probably gave it to my cousins when he moved to a smaller house.

I had built an MXR Flanger into my Hammond also.
Was my “Leslie”. :wink:


including a 1971 System 15

I’m not sure, but 1971 seems a little early for a Moog 15. (??)

That might be. Perhaps it was a '73 or '75…I DO know it was an odd number year in the 70’s and that he sold it in poor condition for $7k.

I would have had to follow up on that.

From what I understand, the series ending in 5’s (15, 35, 55) were on the market in 74, when the guy from the custom engineering dep. (whose name I will not mention) joined the team.

EricK, I highly doubt he would have remembered the exact year he bought it. He once called my dad to ask if he remembered the year my uncle bought his Gran Torino. :laughing: THAT I know for a fact was 1973, because he was jealous my dad had a 426 Challenger, so he bought a Gran Torino in retaliation. My guess is he bought the System 15 in 1975…that would have given him two years to save after buying the Torino.

I"m sorry to be obnoxious, but it’s just that people rarely realize that synthesizers have been around a VERY long time, and have been capable of the same sorts of sounds. There is some stuff of Harald Bode’s from the 40s or so which sounds just like the synth stuff people were doing in the late sixties. Also, there’s the Novachord, the Trautonium, and even the Telharmonium!
You’ll have to forgive me… it’s my job to dig deep in electronic music history!

Dude, the Novachord is AWESOME. It is a dream of mine to someday encounter one and be allowed to play it for an unhealthy amount of time. One of the coolest sounding synthesizers of all time in my opinion, and the first ever polysynth, though I think I am correct in saying it is paraphonic? I don’t claim to be an expert in this area, just an enthusiast. :slight_smile:

Filtered: I LOVE your Moog stuff on these recordings. That tone is gorgeous, and you yourself are quite the talented keyboardist! Keep doing what you’re doing, man, it’s great!

After I win the lottery and buy sixteen Voyagers for polyphony, I will use the rest of the money to build a Telharmonium…only because that would be awesome. Hopefully I can purchase the Mason’s Lodge in downtown Waukegan to house it. Not sure where else close to home I could put it… :laughing: