Boy, now that the initial hoopla is over on the LP’s being delivered, things are getting a bit dull around here. We go some days without a single post. This post is a perfect example of how boring things have become…
Moog needs to announce the release of a new model to get things hopping around here again!! 
Okay, so what do you reckon they should release, then? How about a voice processor, or something?
It has got to be something big…foogers are cool, but they do not generate the speculation and interest that a new synth does.
I am afraid that we are probably 3-4 years off on another new groundbreaking synth, though. Not counting the Stage LP, of course. 
Realistically, though, what is left for them to do? Are they going to keep rehashing altered copies of the LP and Voyager? A Memorymoog type of keyboard would be great but too spendy for most. A modular? Cool, but not realistic. I would suspect some sort of polyphonic synth.
Then again a sequencer would be cool, but there are already quite a number of those out there…
I think that I will go play my LP, rather than continue this speculation…
The Taurus IV would be cool.
Probably not enough demand for one.
How about a Moog Ribbon/Guitar?
I don’t think they made enough of these.
Terry
Realistically> , though, what is left for them to do
Freudian slip or do you know something we don’t? A new MG-1 on the way is it?
It is difficult to forecast where they go from here as they’ve got the ultimate mono in the Voyager and probably the cheapest synth they could make in the LP.
Any poly they made would be too expensive and lose out to the PEK, Andromeda etc.
Maybe they’ll develop the pianobar concept and adapt it to different acoustic instruments (bagpipes, jew’s harp etc)
A new Taurus model would be so cool.
But not just a rehash of the Taurus I but a new model, kinda like the Voyager vs Model D mini.
Call it the Taurus Voyager, if you will 
But on the other hand, I would take a 1:1 rehash of ye ole Taurus I any time of the day
If DSI and Alesis can do a polysynth then Moog can certainly do this.They can also more simply to keep costs down. The essence of the memorymoogs appeal is that it has 6 not poly and a very simple minimoog style interface. any less than 6 note poly is pointless to me.
Also they have the benefit of hindsight as all the competitors in this field have already shown their cards. A new memorymoog IS the way forward and is necessary to Moog completing their synth lineup. It makes no business sense for Moog not to release a poly at this point considering that their competitors already have prouct out in this field. So id put money on the next product being a poly synth or expander racks to add to the phatty.
To sum up theyll probably do one or all of the following:-
1.Release a memorymoog replacement- the design is perfect it just needs to be reliable and have midi.
2.Release LP rackmount that has the abilty to chain to the LP for poly
3. Relase a vco moogerfooger with midi
Expanders or rackmounts are a bit cumbersome just to add poly so again i put my money on the next moog product after the stage Lp being a memorymoog replacement.
I dont reckon a taurus replacement is viable though.-Too niche.
It may be a niche product, but so ist the Voyager - in todays standards, anyway. Who in their healthy sense would invest their hard earned dough in a monophonic analog synthesizer when you can have polyphony et all for a much lesser price?
(Well, I did, and so did many others, too
)
Anyway, sounds like the exact same clientel that would spend $$ on a new Taurus pedal to me.
But then I’m not a marketing guy and I guess you’re probably right:
a polysynth would make more sense.
Dom
how bout the theremin cello?
i actually emailed them about 3 years ago asking if they would ever make one of those
but yeah they said that although it would be cool there would be no market for it, but that they were thinking of doing a rackmount voyager 
the way i look at it, most of moogs customers are on this forum, and moog really pays attention to what we all say.
although it didn’t make that much sense to re-release the delay as it would cost too much, they soon realised that we were prepared to pay stupid money on ebay for the old one, and lept to the rescue with a new model (i’m so glad i didn’t have to get one off ebay, they’d be over $2000 now if it weren’t for the Z/SD)
so maybe they will release a taurus? i don’t see th point myself, why not just get midi foot pedals + RME?
i think they could make a poly for less than everyone thinks, if the stage really is gonna be only a grand then a poly doesn’t really seem that immpossible to me.
but i don’t think it’ll be the next product, the next one will probably be the “as yet unreleased goodie” whatever that may be
wow i didn’t see that guitar pic b4!
that’s awesome!
even better than the theremin cello!
any info on that thing? i’ve never heard of that b4
how much do they go for these days?
I wonder how different the “stage” version of the LP will look. Maybe no funky curved wood panels? A more straightforward, angular, wood-free design?
That Moog Ribbon/Guitar is seriously cool. Never seen one before, when did they release it and how many are out there?
Guys,
Moog is a small company so they have their hands full with the LP, Voyager upgrades, etc. They just released the LP so it’s gonna be a while. There’s an interview with Dr. Moog (sorry no link) where he says that Moog can’t do the Taurus because of the pedal boards. No company that makes the right one will sell in such small quantities to Moog…that’s from Bob’s own mouth so the Taurus isn’t going to happen. I think the next synth release will be a LP rack mount for adding voices to either the Voyager, LP, or other synth. That will gives us a poly Moog option and an even less expensive synth for newcomers to Moog. That ribbon guitar is sweet.
Give the team at Moog time to breath before doing another good synth. It takes plenty of work to do a synth right. And Moog’s R&D is not done by 20 engineers.
theres lots of discussion on the stage lps potential appearance over at vintagesynth.com discussions.
Wow!! Now I know how it is to be a politician. People can read anything into what you say!!
Absolutely. Especially with the market that would be available to a polyphonic Moog… I daresay they would sell more polyphonics than monophonics because not only would all of us buy it, but all the people who so ignorantly cannot understand a monophonic keyboard instrument would be open to it.
The notion that “it is too expensive” is just the sort of BS they’d like you to believe. What it actually means is: It is not cheap enough… keyboard companies, yes even Moog, have become so accustomed to the low cost of computer components that the notion of stepping backward profit-wise to the purchase or manufacture of analog components is too scary. This is the same sort of money-first thinking that has companies saying “if we made things out of wood or metal it would be TOO EXPENSIVE,” or “if we had ACTUAL PEOPLE answering the phones to help you, it would be TOO EXPENSIVE,” etc. The prize of profit goes to the people who look at “TOO EXPENSIVE” and come up with a way to do it… NOT to the people who want to cut corners at every possible turn and still sell a product as a “high end” product.
Think of what synthesizers we currently enjoy would have never been made with this “it’s too expensive to do it right” attitude.
Synthesizers.com seems to be demonstrating that analog can be done relatively cheaply.
Oh, come on… that’s like saying a monophonic instrument is pointless.
To establish the basis of pretty much any chord (with a few exceptions, of course, but still) all you need is four notes. It sounds like you’re thinking in a piano mindset more than a synth mindset. It’s nice to have a large polyphony in a synthesizer… but the minute you start expecting those sorts of features is the moment you might as well settle for a modern digital synth.
I agree.
I know Moog is a small company, etc. but still. There is a lot of money to be made… the market is brimming with people busting with money who want anything with Moog on it (and who are the most likely to not understand monophonic), as well as all of the people like us.
Totally. An instrument that only classical organists can play effectively… and besides, it isn’t the interface that is so appealing about the Taurus (to most)… why would they remake it? I doubt they would be able to hit upon that sound… otherwise, EVERYONE would be making Taurus-soundalikes.
Here’s a few points:
A Memory Moog does not sound like a polyphonic Mini (as far as I have been told). Instead of discrete components, you get CEM voice chips and the like. So, would a Memory Moog II sound like a polyphonic Voyager? Probably not.
Custom VCO chips are very expensive to make; that’s why the Andromeda is expensive (or one of the reasons).
Does Moog make a polyphony available? Yes. Is is affordable? No. If you want a 16 voice Voyager, you need (a Voyager and) 15 RMEs! That would cost you $30k. And would you still need all those knobs? No, you would MIDI everything together and control using CC on your Voyager keyboard.
We’ve discussed this before, but why doesn’t Moog make a poly expander? I.e. an RME with only MIDI and audio, and probably CV in/out as well. No knobs. Noone wants a 16 voice polytimbral…
I’d say a good setup would have a Voyager, an RME and 14 (or less, depending on how many voices you wanted) expanders. Each half (of 8 voices) would be able to be split and layered.
And then you’d have to tune the damn thing, and you’d also have to mult. out any CV you were using 'coz it doesn’t send via MIDI.
The components used on the Taurus I are decades out of manufacture, so says MC. But if there was any possibility of building another bass synth which JUST DOES BASSY MOOG BASS DAMMIT, I’d probably buy it and control it with a set of MIDI pedals or a keyboard.
yeah i like the poly expander idea (hope they make one for the phatty!)
i think 3 is a good number of voices to add, that way they could build them as small racks, and you choose your polyphony for your voyager/LP depending on how many expanders you buy
for a more modest budget you could just get 1 to bring your synth up to 4 voice (i think 4 voices is just fine! even 2 or 1 i don’t see the point in 3 though i think 1,2 or 4 as far as small numbers go)
that way you could have either
1
4
7
10
13
or 16
i reckon they’re all fairly round rumbers that could work quite well.
if they did it for the LP they’d have to give it a midi through
and maybe a set of CV four way multis for the inputs that copy the CV signal you stick in, to the 3 internal voices and give you 1 set of outputs for the main LP
so you’d have:
pitch CV in (to all int voices), pitch cv out (to keyboard pitch cv in)
filter CV in (to all int voices), filter cv out (to keyboard)
volume CV in (to all int voices), volume cv out (to keyboard)
gate in (to all int voices), gate out (to keyboard)
that way you could still create modularish sounds with ext gear like foogers, that work for all notes!
and throw in an audio in specially designed for the main LP that mixes the outputs of all voices evenly, and a section that selects between two types of polyphony
a: the first key you hit is allways sounded by voice 1 (like current voyager poly chaining)
b: each time you hit the first key it cycles through the diferent voices (for long sustaining sounds)
or maybe it could have individual outs for each voice! that would be so fun!
would be so cool to have a polyphonic moog! i can imagine a new self-contained polyphonic moog would look absolutely amazing!
before i got the LP i didn’t think i’d even get one if they released one (it would just be so expensive) but now, after hearing that quality of sound, and feeling the amazing solid build, i wouldn’t be able to resist. providing they could keep it under 5 grand (USD, so that would be about 8 grand AUD) then i’d have to find some way to get the beast!
you know what would be cool…
a new four voice moog poly that comes as either a keyboard or rack or combined for 8 voice!
how many octaves should a new moog poly have? would be cool if it had 4 and a half, to make it like an upsized mini.