Moog should add real modular modules to their products line.
Moog should stay with the Moogers, add some modular capable pedals
both
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Just curious what everyone else thinks. i like the idea of using my MFs as a modular setup. I use them this way and they certainly have a lot of capablilities. However, what if Moog “really” got back into modulars and kept the MF line more pedal/guitar/bass/keys oriented. Would you prefer new moogerfoogers to expand the modular type capabilities, or would you prefer that they spend some R&D $ and come up with some killer moog modules for the new Milenium.
with the cp format moogers they could definitely fit more into smaller spaces to acheive a comfortable modular set-up for sure. i still think this idea would be fun: http://www.moogmusic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4184&highlight=. either way though, i think the current guitar pedal set-up is the right financial move for them, as getting guitaristist interested in these types of pedals means a lot more money coming in, and more R&D moog will be willing to do for more esoteric effects. going the true modular route seems a little out of character for the ‘new’ Moog but I really think the possibility of them adding another CP unit like this one: (http://www.moogmusic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4135&highlight=) seems likely, along with a slew of other modular-type fx pedals like Parametric EQ/fuzzbox, Chorus/Flange, multimode filter, etc w/ CV control.
the only difference between the modular and the pedalconfiguration is the plugs are on the back/side and there’s a stompknob.
i wouldnt mind to have the plugs on the front as a guitarist.
so it would be an idea to sell m as modulars and have an attachable stompknob.
so with guitar use>>
put the cp shaped moogerfooger on his back and click a stompknob onto it.
the little stompknobbox will be in an angle like usual.
this knobbox will fit on each cp-fooger.
could draw it out, but no program for that.
edit* i see it was mentioned allready, only thing i’ld like to add is that it should be an attachable footswitch, so the two components (cp and switch) will be one.
isnt handy on stage to have these seperate parts when you dont use a pedalcase.
i really like the idea of the “cp” style foogers. since i use mine in both guitar and synth set up it would be alot more convenient. and of corse i would love to see actual modular peices too
I voted both. What drew me into the Moogerfooger line was the guitar effect approach. I had no idea what it was capable of when I bought my used phaser pedal. All I knew was that it was better than any phaser pedal I had ever seeen. It was later, when I downloaded the manual that I realized that these pedals were so powerful and interactive. That is when I was sold on the modular idea. I have since bought 3 other MF’s and the CP unit as well and can’t even imagine using each pedal alone. The more I get, the more I want.
I love the post on another topic with alternative versions for a new CP. I would love to see more of those. I think these could be marketed towards making a good companion for the foogers as they do enhance the effects greatly with little experimentation. I also think the MF series and the CP are a bit undermarketed for electronic musicians. All of the people I know who make electronic music haven’t heard of these yet, or know what they do. With digital effects and effects software so readily available and cheap, more of these people are not looking for guitar effects to change their sound.
The only complaint I have with the foogers, is that the jacks are on the back. I have often thought I should bend the metal to bring them to the front (although they would be upside down). For this reason, I really enjoy the CP’s layout over the MF’s.
<< The only complaint I have with the foogers, is that the jacks are on the back. I have often thought I should bend the metal to bring them to the front (although they would be upside down). For this reason, I really enjoy the CP’s layout over the MF’s. >>
Sounds like an opportunity for someone to create a 'Fooger converter kit consisting of some new sheet metal and end plates, basically turning the thing into a CP-style form factor. This would allow the jacks to appear at the top of the panel (with new labelling) with the knobs/switches directly below. It would probably be good to relocate the footswitch as well to keep everything compact.
Yeah, that would be cool. If you left the stomp button on, you could even keep it to a small 1 rack space add-on piece/kit to the top (maybe for all 3 pedals in a rack?). It would give you a wire(s) to extend, if needed, and have holes for the jacks to be placed into the new top/forward facing plate.
It would be cool also, to have it be a 2 or 3 rack space with switches like you mentioned! You could even get crazier and add some multiple/patchbay type of things.
Now what if you made it for 6 pedals (3 above and 3 below) with all of the in/outs relocated in the middle of everything!
Had that thought about rack mounting, too. Was thinking about arranging things so that the I/O would appear down the left side, away from the knobs and switches. Any extra panel space could be used for multiples or patchbays, and perhaps an attentuator or two. The result would be a largish panel for two or three 'Foogers, but would provide the modular design that a few here have asked for.
Of course, anyone could design this and then go to a local machine shop and have a panel made as a one-off custom job.
ive been wanting to make knob boxes/patch bay combo for my MFs. basically individual boxes with knob controls for the foogers knobs and corresponding CV in/out for all the jacks placed on top of te box. so this way i can stomp the on off switch and and twiddle the knobs and patch the jacks without slouching over or sitting on the ground while playing.
this should be really easy to make, you dont even have to open up the fooger.
but still havent heard anyone has done it.
o well, offcourse there are extra flipswitches and stuff like Sync On or knobs like Drive and such for which you have to open the fooger up and solder to the plate.
yea i really like that set up. i would maybe make the back part with the CPs and PB detachable so you can stomp on the switches still and have the patch and CPs at armlevel. and maybe make it possible to stack another MF part underneath or on top of what you have now so you have space for more foogers. basically like a 2 tier Minimoog but instead of keys youll have foogers
I read this thread a few months back but it took Moog a while to make my account active so I could post to it.
Really cool idea, that’s the thing with these pedals - they are hardly “set and forget”, you need to be able to tweak them and bending over with a 12lb bass around your neck gets old quickly.
I like the concept of putting the moogers into a console like shatki’s sketch. Would require some development…
I have mine mounted to the moog brackets currently, and my plan is to have a thin rack case atop my amp cab at an angle where I can twiddle knobs. The effect on/off footswitches appear to be “momentary”, so I would just take them out of the pedals, and put them into a box on the floor and run cables up so I can still footswitch them on/off.
I’ve had the case off my pedals to mount them, and you couldn’t just “bend” the sheet metal to have the jacks pointing outward because the jacks are mounted to the PCB board. However, it would be easy enough to build a short cable with 1/4 Female to Male to reroute the jacks without disturbing the board.
Anyway, has anyone put any more thought into this? Curious to see if anyone has done this or what your thoughts are.
moogers in pedal form are more likely to crossbreed “conventional” instruments with synthesis and will let musicians enjoy their instruments in a totally new soundworld and take it all a step further.
normal modules is for synthesizer enthousiasts and will more likely stay in that corner.
i am pro-experimentalism.
I voted for the second option. Bob himself said it, Moog is not going back into the modular business. But, Moog is keeping one foot in the modular world and personally I think its working out fine.
There is already plenty of companies putting out top-notch modular systems. The Moogerfoogers and CP-251 act both as guitar/bass effects and modular add-ons.
The ideas that some other posters have been throwing around for new Moogerfoogers and Control Processors probably will see the light sooner or later.
One thing that I really respect about Moog is that they stick to their roots. A lot of companies that are major corporations that have undergone management changes over the years often lose sight of just how they got started.
Roland is an example of this. Even though their products are great, they are notorious for certian business practices such as selling a brand new item for half of what you just paid for their current one. (Like the RD line of pianos)
I think that the club of Moogers is an elite one. Those who are in the know are comparitively small compared to the number of musicians out there. Not a huge number of people use Moog gear or know about the sound. THat leaves the rest of us with an intimate connection with the company/products and an acessibillity to its staff that is practically unrivaled.
I don’t know what brought me to the Moog and I honestly don’t know why I have this romantisized view of it, but theres one thing that is for sure; Dr. Moog cared about his clients’ ideas and thats why there are features that are standard on just about every synth that you can buy to this day.
I will always be thankful for the contributions that Dr Moog made, the ideas that he had that play a direct role in my inspiration as an artist.
One little upgrade I would like to see is a jack for a remote on/off switch for the effect.
As far as future products, I’d love to see a Moog pitch>CV product so I can control my Voyager via guitar. And after that I suppose resurrecting the 960 Sequencer and the “helper” modules that go with it as an all-in-one-package would be really sweet.
I can tell you exactly why I went with Moog: I can’t afford a Corvette or a girlfriend in an apartment.
