http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIZNeCpU9tQ
I did this yesterday to demonstrate the Moog 1130 percussion Controller. I slapped this together about as hastily as I could. I hope you guys enjoy.
Moog Drum controlling Micromoog, with accompanyment by synsonics and Voyager.
Eric
Thanks Eric, I enjoyed watching your demo! 
Cool. 
Thanks.
I doubt there’s many demos available of the Moog drum.
One thing to note is that the Moog drum includes a sample and hold.
When you hit the drum, the voltage it produces is held constant.
It doesn’t die away with the drum strike.
So it’s possible to open a filter, make a sequencer play faster (or whatever) and keep the voltage constant after the hit.
I think it would be neat to take your basic techno tracks and feed each individually through a filter, those filters controlled by many Moog type drums.
Then, give it to a good drummer at Peart or Palmer level.
The only time I know of that I’ve heard the Moog drum in action has been on the Spectrum album by Billy Cobham. In one of his many solos he triggers the Moog drum as it controls a Minimoog and goes thru a few interesting variations in combinations with real acoustic drums and single Moog drum hits…sounded pretty good in 1973. Jan Hammer also does some killer Minimoog solos on that album, one of my all time favs from the fusion era. A must for Moog fanatics…it has been reissued twice.
Kevin,
Hey Thanks! I think the only people that have 1130 videos right now are Oliver Grall (from Synthesizers.de who worked with the French Museum that housed the Eric Siday modular) and I.
I got the drum out of the box the other day to shoot the video and the sensitivity pot is twisting around in there like a screw is loose. SOmetimes when you hit the drum it doesn’t activate and the metal on the accessory and s-trig plugs are white.
Can you contact me and talk to me about sending it to you for a once over? Do you happen to have a manual available?
Eric
Anything that you know about them or their production would be a fabulous thing to read.
You can save yourself some money if you address these issues yourself, but I’ll help out if I can.
I’ll entertain almost any small item right now because of back pain.
I have no owners manual for the unit, but have an original service manual.
There’s no problem in providing a scan for you since it’s so brief.
Please note that Moog drums can become slightly less sensitive from age.
Because they use a speaker as the transducer, the part known as the “surround” can become brittle or less pliable.
Was the surround made of foam? Couldn’t you just reapply the surround? Or replace the speaker with one with butyl rubber surround? Seems easy enough to me.
Hey Eric,
Nice video! I thought you were driving a sequencer at the begining, it sounded like it was playing a tune. As you probably realize, the 1130 driving an oscillator will play random non-chromatic notes unless you run that CV through a scale quantizer. Then it becomes much more musical. I always used mine with a combination of the Taurus pedals to transpose keys. Many of my old patches involved the CV1 turned down so it would only play one note, and the second CV controlling the filter. Drummers thought it was awesome. Many a space jam with that setup! I built an interface panel for my Moog accessories so I could easily access the 4 outputs from the modular. Running the output to VCO’s through a quantizer opens up a whole new instrument. 
And I thought I had the only Moog 1130 demo on U-toob? 
Moog 1130 Percussion controller demo
In my video, I’m advancing a Q960 sequencer with the V trigger output from the 1130. The S-trigger is firing the envelopes on the Minimoog. The CV1 from the 1130 is opening and closing the Mini filter, and CV2 is firing a snare sound on a Simmons SDS-1000. So the harder I hit the drum the brighter the Mini and louder the snare sound. The Mini oscillators are controlled by the Q960 via a Q962 switch and also a Taurus 2 controller on the floor to transpose the sequence. Then there are three other mesh head toms controlling the other three Simmons tom sounds on the SDS-1000 and there is a bass drum being triggered by one of the gates on one of the Q-962’s. The Simmons sound has an echo on it to help keep time.
You can hear at about 0:40sec. I’m playing softly and play harder at 1:00.
The video is cryptic though, as it seems I’m playing to a sequencer. But I’m the clock for the sequencer, and every drum hit advances the sequencer. If I had stopped playing it all would stop.
Short vid only 1:08.
Man I saw that video a long time ago. I guess I was thinking that the Oliver Grall cat was you??? Its hard to be sure with all of the different nicks on the internet.
I was suprised there were no other demos frankly. I thought I was going to be bad and do a Theremin/Talkbox demo but someone has already done that too lolol.
I am in desperate need for a sequencer! That would make things worlds easier.
Really this type of thing really shows me how much I need to learn about synthesis. I really don’t have a clue as to what a quantizer would do. THen theres dotcom modules that have similar functions that I read about all the time like the quantizers, slew limiters, and rectifyers. Theres definately a method to the madness of Modulars taking up whole rooms.
I could have definately used the Taurus III’s doing the bassline.
I also need to get the kinks out of the drum and find a vintage ludwid stand for it so I can mount it properly. I think having a lot of them would be awesome. I feel more at home on a trapset than anything else, when I saw Moog knobs on a shell I had to own it!
THanks!
Eric
KL,
Well Im willing to break out some screwdrivers and tighten some bolts, but what Im really afraid of is ruining something because I can barely properly tin the tip of my soldering iron, much less try to do a decent joint.
I asked Mike Bucki if replacing the speaker inside would be to my benefit but he said that all that I shohuld do is manipulate the scale knob alot to work out any kinks. This seems to have helped. WHen I turned the sensitivity knob, it went clockwise all the way…and then kept on going. That and the paint is flaking off just because of the humidity i think. And the contacts are all white, I barely want to introduce that into my MicroMoog. I imagine that im the only one that has ever plugged anything into those rear jacks on the Micro.
The S-trig plug, I couldn’t really tell if it was working sometimes. Before I shot the video, with everything plugged in, I still don’t think the trigger was functioning properly.
On one hand, Id just like to get it in fully functional working order, but on the other hand the thought has crossed my mind to just try and attenuate the signals and use it specifically for the New Moog stuff. THe cable is pretty short when it comes to the split ends.
E
Ah! The quantizer? A great invention. The quantizer will round off voltages.
For example a simple pot with 5 volts max and 0 volts minimum would sweep a 1 volt per octave oscillator, a continuously glide through a 5 octave sweep. There is theoreticly an infinite resolution of voltages between the 5 volts and zero. Now if we quantize that voltage, we get finite steps in between the 5 and zero. For a 1/volt per octave VCO, steps every 1/12th of a volt will roughly equal chromatic steps.(OK, not on the Voyager input?) The quantized pot would become more musical as a tuned oscillator, would step through the chromatic notes like: C, C#, D, Eb, E, and so on. In the old days, chromatic quantizers were found on sequencers like the Arp 1610 or Oberheim mini-sequencer. And gave chromatic steps to the pots on the stages to make tuning easier. (There were drawbacks though).
Today with digital tables, quantizers are not only able to round of the voltage to the nearest 1/12 volt, but they can also be programed to do almost any scale including micro tunings. So one could set a quantizer to a minor triad. Tune the oscillators to C at 0 volts, and any variable voltage source like an LFO, sample/hold, 1130 percussion controller, would be locked into outputing the voltages for C, Eb, G, and all octaves above.
Very musical now. Add in a method to transpose like a keyboard or pedals, and your in a new time zone!
So by rounding off the voltages output from the Moog drum, sample/hold, LFO, you can now get pseudo melodies that can be in tune. The 1130 becomes a different annimal now. Before the quantizer the note could have been anything from a very sharp F to a slightly out of tune B flat. Not so musical, sometimes random out of tune notes. Quantizer = hours of fun with these once random control voltages!
Did that make sense? 
Yeah,
I think id have to experiment with that.
In application, it essentially sets limits, right? Just like if you are doing a solo it has to be in the same chord structure, right? So while you are still getting a random voltage, its something within a defined range so that every note is going to be musical.
What module specifically does that?
Eric
I think when ever I start building a modular system a quantizer is going to be one of my first modules. I have so many uses for that right now. 
I have two quantizers here. One is a Blacet Miniwave with a Scale Quantizer EPROM for quantizer mode. The other is a Modcan 55B dual quantizer. Both have tables you select with the various scales you want to quantize to. Here is an example of the 55B’s table.
Here are some MP3 examples.
First a sample and hold. First part without quantization, second part with quantization. The second part almost sounds like a step sequencer set on random stages. Fun to jam to!
Sample and hold quantizer example 0:23 543K
The next one is the 1130 without quantization then with. Still sounds very interesting without quantization though!
Moog 1130 quantizer example 0:34 805K
As you can hear in the examples the quantizer limits the voltages to ones that equal scales on a 1 volt per octave VCO. The old days, the chromatic quantizer would not be much more musical with an 1130 than playing random notes on a piano. Even though the notes are now chroamatic they can still be non musical nonsense. By limiting the notes out to a set scale the 1130 can now play these psudo melodies. Add in a set of bass pedals to transpose the scale and your set. 
I’ve used the Modcan.
It’s excellent.
You DO need that chart though if you’re approaching it from a learned musical background.
The coolest thing though is that no one’s mentioned it’s Chuck Norris’ birthday today!
Kevin, you just opened a huge can of worms.
(Chuck Norris doesn’t have birthdays, birthdays have Chuck Norrisses) Last one Ill ever write i swear to Bob.
Hey,
I know ur busy over there, would you be so kind as to hook me up with the scan of that 1130 manual? Im going to take it apart tomorrow and see if I can’t tighten that pot up, and im going to see if I can spray some contactr cleaner on the pins.
Eric
Someone had the whole accessory manual as a PDF file, but I can’t find the link. Here is a copy of the 5 pages for the 1130.
Moog 1130 schematic zipped 1348K
Thanks CZ. Saved from scanning the orig.
Yeah, not much to the thing. Basically the speaker under the drumhead has a reversed role as a microphone. The two aren’t that far apart in concept anyway. Doesn’t Yamaha or somebody make a kick drum mic that is essentially a speaker?
I appreciate you guys’ responces. I guess Im just sort of at the stage where Im afraid to take something apart. I felt cool being elbow deep in the voyager to replace the keybed scanner.
I don’t want to screw anything up taking the drum apart…i guess I just have to man up and take a peek.
THanks again!
Eric