I promised to create some samples of my Model D since I think it sounds more alive and fatter then the Voyager. I’m not complaining, I love my MMV AE. Here are some mp3 samples all recorded without effects.
I’m afraid my Model D is a bit sick right now and she will soon be gonging to the doctor for a check up but I managed to create some sounds.
xsynt_filter_sweep
xsyn_bass
xsynt_ResoBass
xsynt_JazzBass
Kind regards
Demokid
When you say “alive and fatter” what do you mean?
Well… I get more “oomph” (puchier sound) out of the D then the MMV. The envelopes seems a lot tighter (faster) on the D, the oscillators seams hotter (don’t know how to explain it).
One sawtooth on the D has a lot more feeling then one on the MMV. If you make a basic Minimoog sound with three VCO’s on the MMV and make the same sound on the D with 2 VCO’s the D still sounds fatter, warmer and punchier.
I think the only way to experience the difference in the sound is to play with both on the same time. I will not sell the D since I always use it for deep hard basses and fat leads.
But the MMV is still a great sizer and has more stability better MIDI and a lot more fun things to play around with.
Regards
Demokid
Demokid,
I second every word.
I might to add, that I like to have a synth in this class with me on stage. And I am to afraid my Mini could break down because of this. So the Voyager is the closest thing to the Minimoog. And the added new modulation possibilities make it nearly a tine Moog Modular.
Using the feedback loop on the Voyager and only use the single filter output will improove the Voyager’s sound in terms of sounding like the Minimoog. But I only did so for some testing only.
Demonkid,
I understand when you say “puchier” and the envelopes seems a lot tighter.
But when you use terms like “sawtooth on the D has a lot more feeling” and warmer. Things you could say about a human being I get lost.
How does the Sawtooth have more feelings?
Is there a more technical way to explain?
I think the sawtooth is most emotional of all waveforms.
The S & H is a bit schizoid. . .
Yes, and squarewaves are downright a$$holes.
Actually, some of my best friends are squarewaves!
Demokid - these are nice sounds. I was going to see if I could (somewhat) match them but I’ve actually been writing music rather than messing about with gear.
I’d like to have a go, though, and it would help a lot if you could give a brief patch description of each - number and shape of oscillators, basic env / filter settings. It doesn’t have to be exact, just a frame of reference. Tx
Hi,
there are people I know that prefer the Voyager over the Minimoog. It is all very subjective. If you are accustomed to a particular quality in a synth and you think A is fatter than B, this is what you are going to hear. Too many people are biased with analog preoccupations.
Hmm… I actually don’t remember the settings. I know I used all three VCO’s, probably (32,16,16) or (32,16,8). I think I used sawtooth, pulse-1 and SawTri waves. I did some tweaking in real time of e.g. resonance, cut-off and Filter Decay.
I usually don’t like to make demo samples of sizers since it takes time from my composing but this was actually really fun.
Suthnear:
I don’t think you have to work so hard to copy my sounds… just have fun and create some cool sound on your MMV.
Kind regards
Demokid
Thanks DK - I thought you’d used all three but because the voyager’s waveshaper is continuous it can take quite a while to dial in the ‘right’ combos. Might get some time tonight…
ikazlar - we are all but the sum of our preoccupations 
for me, anyway, this is an exercise in careful listening and I hope that I will come out of it knowing just a little bit more about my voyager than I do now.
Hi Demokid,
Thanks for the nice samples from your Model D.
That helps me to make the MMV sounds like a Model D.
I have tried to match your first sample “xsynt_filter_sweep” with my Voyager, recorded from left-out only.
Greets
Auratune
Wow, I can’t tell the difference. I thought I could at first, but blind I was fooled.
Close, but the D sounds brighter and livelier. I’m a big fan of the MMV, and it is what brought me to buy a Voyager.
It would be interesting to see some oscilloscope prints comparing the Mini and the Voyager waveforms. Anyone with both a Mini and a Voyager want to do this?!? As an owner of both, it is your responsibility…no DUTY.
Funny, I thought the Voyager sounded brighter and livelier! And I just bought a Mod D a few weeks ago, having owned a Voyager for a year and a half.
Initially I was struck by just how close the Voyager came, but on subsequent listenings, a few differences emerged, which I am sure I could tell blindfolded. (I’m not bragging, its just the truth. )
The D has a slightly more snappy attack, and a thicker, more juicy resonance. This doesn’t mean it sounds better however, for I thought it sounded somewhat generic, while the Voyager was more colorful, and more defined in its sonic contours. The Voyager’s tracking of the harmonic spectrum (i.e. the filter) really jumped out at me, and was superior sounding to me than the Mod D mp3. You could hear the resonant peaks of the harmonics much more clearly, and it seems, through a wider spectrum than the D. This might be because of the fact that it is less harmonically dense than the Mod D, so tonality and harmonic density are not the same thing, and density can even detract from tonal color. No one synth will do it all, and what is a strenght in one context, can be a detriment in another. If I had to choose which synth to own, I would choose the Voyager, because the strenghts of the Mod D can be found in other synths (you want thick juicy resonance-check out the Technosaurus Microcon! Punchy bass, Waldorf Pulse, Junos etc.), but the “Rainbow” iradescence of the Voyager is unique in my estimation.
Funny, I thought the Voyager sounded brighter and livelier! And I just bought a Mod D a few weeks ago, having owned a Voyager for a year and a half.
Initially I was struck by just how close the Voyager came, but on subsequent listenings, a few differences emerged, which I am sure I could tell blindfolded. (I’m not bragging, its just the truth. )
The D has a slightly more snappy attack, and a thicker, more juicy resonance. This doesn’t mean it sounds better however, for I thought it sounded somewhat generic, while the Voyager was more colorful, and more defined in its sonic contours. The Voyager’s tracking of the harmonic spectrum (i.e. the filter) really jumped out at me, and was superior sounding to me than the Mod D mp3. You could hear the resonant peaks of the harmonics much more clearly, and it seems, through a wider spectrum than the D. This might be because of the fact that it is less harmonically dense than the Mod D, so tonality and harmonic density are not the same thing, and density can even detract from tonal color. No one synth will do it all, and what is a strenght in one context, can be a detriment in another. If I had to choose which synth to own, I would choose the Voyager, because the strenghts of the Mod D can be found in other synths (you want thick juicy resonance-check out the Technosaurus Microcon! Punchy bass, Waldorf Pulse, Junos etc.), but the “Rainbow” iradescence of the Voyager is unique in my estimation.
Yeah, at first I really couldn’t tell the difference. But after listening to them a few times I could pick them out, but I’d agree, the voyager sounded brighter, not the d. But I was still impressed with how close they sounded.