The title pretty much sums it up. I’m curious to know what applications this would be advantageous in. I understand it from a path standpoint, but I am apparently caught in a serious mental cloud. I can’t think of more than one example.
This is in reference to the Little Phatty CV Out modification, wherein which the Mod Buss is post-Amount. Are there any of you that would’ve ordered the modification to be done another way if you, hypothetically, were to do it again? Furthermore, are there any of you that did have your CV Out modification done pre-Amount?
Post mod wheel is better if you want to use the LP as a keyboard controller for another synth with CV ins.
Pre mod wheel plus an external attenuator gives you more control when using the LFO to modulate a parameter at the LP’s CV in or a parameter on another piece of gear. It allows for the level of the LFO to be at a different level that what it is at internally. Not much use without an external attenuator to adjust the level. Also useful if you are using the LFO as a clock and want to be able to change the internal modulation with the mod wheel (if you don’t want your clock to stop when the mod wheel is down).
Out of curiosity, which route did you go when you ordered your modification? Were you aware before that it was pre-Amount or was it something learned in the aftermath?
Also, doesn’t the CP-251 absolve the issue of an external attenuator? That is, if one is available for the given task and is at your disposal. I know the Level parameter is available externally on most external sound-sources used, but I’m curious if the CP-251 (or the MP-201 while we’re at it) can play a role in absolving this.
The standard cv out when I got mine done was post mod wheel. I asked for both on a TRS jack. I was told it was not work they were interested doing at that time, but they might offer it in the future. Mine is post mod wheel, but I wish I had gone for pre. I also wish I had the trimmers installed to scale the pitch cv in to 1 V/oct, while it was at the factory. I simply forgot, but it wasn’t mentioned when I asked if there was anything else that could be done while it was at the factory (I really don’t want to send it back in for a long time).
My Tribute was one of the first with CV out (I dropped it off in Asheville before the mod was officially available but I got what everybody else go; post) I’m happy with it, I use it for a) playing live b) as a ‘module’ to send a tweakable amount of modulation while play another keyboard; the phatty’s mod wheel is like butter to me, great feel with the rubber-ish surface.
Per Mr. Nose’s comments, I believe that the Tribute is unique since it has a pot on the incoming Pitch CV but to tell you the truth, I haven’t really messed with it if somebody could verify that, I’d appreciate it.
I highly recommend (albeit at significant cost), getting and Old School and VX351 to add to your Phatty, on the subject of having more ways to generate LFOs, the combo sends all flavors of LFO regardless of switch selected and amount and wheel position on the VOS’s panel and in addition has a Mod Bus out. Infinitely handy and when they pop up (one of the 575 made) you can grab them for < $2k USD.
Having been inside my Phatty a few times (mostly because I’m a hacker), I noticed quite a few points where well documented board points may be connected to but I wouldn’t risk it myself (not knowledge enough about the end to end electronics of the Phatty). It’s one thing to open up a Monotribe and hack the heck out of it; Phatty is very different type of machine.
When I ordered the factory CV mod from the Moog factory, I was not aware that there was an option. Recently, I modified my Phatty’s modulation output to be pre mod wheel. I find it to be more useful when using the Phatty both as a controller and a sound source.
The TRS thing is a good idea actually. I’m about to leave my LP at my local dealer so that it has the CV-out; I’ll speak with them about that.
Can you tell me more about these trimmers? What are they exactly? I though the LP’s pitch CV-in was ranged over 10V, i.e. approximatively 1V/octave if one considers the total oscillators range. Am I wrong?
The pitch CV out is 1V/oct.
The Stage 1 and 2 are ~.97V/oct (or something like that). They will track 1V/oct over a few octaves without notice. The tribute edition has extra internal trim pots installed. It can be scaled internally to track 1V/oct, the LP stages can not. You can knock down the incoming CV with an external attenuator to get the stage to track (full warmed up and with patience). Or, get the internal trimmers installed and have it calibrated to 1V/oct for the pitch CV in.
