Minitaur Rev 2

Amazing update! Why’s nobody talking about it!! You all asleep? :mrgreen:

http://www.moogmusic.com/news/minitaur-revolution-2

Ditto.

I told myself Moog Music had certainly listenened to the users. Very cool!

Works fine here, very usefull update.

yea i saw this like the day i had to send my moog back for a swap,

Thanks Moog that was a REAL nice update,

Hooray! I was moaning about a lack of presets on the Minitaur preventing me buying one, now I have no excuse… doh, thanks Moog!! :smiley:

if it is possibly to be changed presets by MIDI program chance ?

thx for answer.

Been waiting for something like this; has anyone had luck installing the Minitaur editor/REV2 update specifically on a 10.5.8 Mac?

A question about the ability to store presets:

Yes, I was successful in storing presets. One issue I ran into was the filter tracking setting. I was able to successfully track the filter at 200% when I was connected via USB. I was able to successfully save the preset in the Minitaur Editor software on OS X. Everything worked as it should.

I disconnected the MIDI, scrolled through the presets that I had made. The filter tracking preset was back to tracking at 100%.

Would there be any reason why this would happen, other than Moog is maintaining the Minitaur Editor connection as the only way to keep it where it was? When I had the filter tracking at 200%, the sounds were beautiful, and I didn’t have to jump up and down the keyboard to hit the notes I wanted to play.

If I’m doing something wrong, I’d definitely be open to suggestion! :smiley:

Ok. The REV 2 impressed me a lot, but for now I found out two bugs. After all the correct steps for the update of firmware and software. I had two important issues: 1. the whole MOD parameters (LFO RATE / VCO LFO AMT and VCF LFO AMT) didn’t work. The restart helped, but it happend to me repeatedly. it’s definitely an issue. also the lfo rate is working quite differently that in previous versions i think, it looks like it changed resolution or something.

The second most important thing - i don’t know what they’ve changed, but most of presets done before happened to sound and act differently.

Somehow my excitement got down after it. I turned myself back to the 1.0.7.

Is it so hard to make an update that will keep the previously made presets work?

old presets doesn’t work on the new firmware.

some problems with the mod part - doesn’t react until restart.

Hey Amos…

Congrats on the new REV 2 OS update for the Minitaur!
Lots of cool new features! :slight_smile:

So we are almost there! With up to 100 Presets now storable Onboard…
what we need is to be able to call up any of them… with MIDI Patch Change!

When you’re in the heat of the moment… doing a Major Show…
there’s no time to be accessing Patches by pushing buttons on a Sound Module.
Only time to change Patches Instantly… using your “own” Controller!

With all the new MIDI features in REV 2… including CV to MIDI…
there must surely be room for something as basic as MIDI Patch Change?

It is great however… that we now have 100 storable Presets onboard!
Many thanks for that!

Here’s one more suggestion though:

  • once a Preset is called up… make it tweakable… with the Front Panel Controls…
    then be able to save it back into that Patch…
    with a specific front panel buttons push procedure.

Also… as before… there still seems to be no way to set the “Under the Hood”
parameters the way you want to use the Minitaur Live… without a
Laptop connected to it… to adjust those? Perhaps these “Under the Hood”
parameters could be saved into each of the 100 Presets… so as to be
specific to each Patch?

So the main idea is for Users to do most of their Presets tweaking at home…
connected to a computer… then take the Minitaur to a Show…
and be able to call up any Preset with MIDI Patch Change…
but be able to tweak and save any of the changes… if needed! :slight_smile:

Perhaps these will come soon… in REV 3 ? :slight_smile:
Many thanks again for such a small… but mighty Moog Module!

have you tried MIDI program change? It works fine.

edit: as long as you are changing to a program that is valid - meaning you must load a preset from the editor to the Minitaur’s internal memory first… after that, you can send a MIDI program change and it will load the preset.

I haven’t used MIDI much, so I don’t know how to send a program change from my Alesis Micron (which is what I’m using to control the Minitaur). I made the preset in the Minitaur Editing program along with under the hood settings. I was able to scroll between the two presets that I had made and loaded. The 200% filter tracking doesn’t work. Bummer.

yes, the midi program change works perfect

How are you guys triggering program changes? (my host is Ableton Live 8 ).

Hey Amos…

Thanks for your reply. Great to know that MIDI Patch Change
was incorporated in your REV 2 update! :slight_smile:

I didn’t try it… because it wasn’t “Officially” announced in any of Moog’s Press Releases…
or in your Video… or in the “MINITAUR_REV_2_AD.pdf”…
or anywhere presently on the Moog website… other than right here…
on this somewhat obscure Forum page?!

The only Official Moog statement is:
“Presets are managed from within the free Editor/Librarian software
and can be recalled from the Minitaur’s front panel controls.”

Perhaps saveable User “Preferred” Under the Hood settings are also
incorporated somewhere as well?

So far though… I’m finding the new Editor not quite so “intuitive”! :frowning:

  • I still can’t figure out how to save my front panel settings into a Preset?

  • I can’t set a new Category… so as to have i.e… “My Sounds” Category?
    The “New” tab does nothing?

  • I can select “0 - Panel Settings”… and use the <<< Tab to Name
    and save my Panel Settings into the Preset column. (I used “bass” as the Category)

  • But when I select “1 - ???” in the Minitaur column… and then use the >>> Tab to move the sound into “1 - ???”…
    it does it… and it is named… but it’s not the sound I just named & saved? Huh?! I tried saving 3 different sounds like this…
    in the Minitaur column 1, 2, and 3… but they all sound the same??

  • Meanwhile… both the Presets Column name… and the name in the “Minitaur”
    column are Highlighted… but I am not sure which one I am really listening to?

I just seem to be not be getting how the new Editor really works…
and this… after spend a couple of hours trying to just now!

Would it be possible for Moog to create a Minitaur Editor “Manual”?..
as I wouldn’t think that I’m the only one who is having trouble making
it all work as advertised.

Many thanks! :slight_smile:

There hasn’t been a lot of info released about the Editor itself. In part this is because it’s free software and it costs time and money to document it. :slight_smile: However, a little bit of help could go a long way towards making it easier to use.

So, here’s what the Editor is doing when you are clicking around in the Preset window:

The left and middle columns (Category and Preset) are showing you the categories and presets which are stored within the Editor/on your computer. When you click on a preset name in the middle column, the editor sends that preset to the Minitaur’s panel memory, so you can audition the sound of it. You should also see all of that preset’s settings displayed in the various Editor windows (front panel and under the hood panel). Important to note, however, is that the selected preset is not permanently stored in the Minitaur’s patch memory just yet; the panel buffer is volatile, meaning that if you change presets or turn off the Minitaur, the settings in the panel buffer will be discarded.

The rightmost column on the Presets page shows you the contents of the Minitaur’s internal patch memory. This will be blank when you first open the Editor. To save a preset to the Minitaur’s internal memory, select a preset from the center Presets column, select a numbered preset slot in the Minitaur bank (right column), then click the (>>>) button to send the preset to the Minitaur. That preset will now appear in the selected slot on the right column, and if you send the Minitaur a midi Program Change message corresponding to that preset number, the Minitaur will load the saved sound from memory. Once you have a number of presets loaded into the Minitaur, you can switch between them by clicking around on the Minitaur bank menu (this simply sends program change messages to the hardware) or for that matter you can put program change messages into Logic at this point and it will call up your saved presets.

So in summary, selecting a preset from the center Preset column instantly changes the sound of the Minitaur but isn’t saved to long-term memory… to save to long-term memory, select a preset, select a slot from the right column, and press (>>>)… if you want to dial up a custom new sound using the Editor and then save it to the Minitaur’s long-term memory, I think you’ll first need to click SAVE on the presets page, to save the preset into your local (inside the editor) preset pool… then select it and (>>>) load to the Minitaur. A bit roundabout but should work.

The editor librarian crashes every time I try to open it with mac os x. Anyone else having issues? any suggestions?

PLEASE tell me why filter tracking at 200% will not stay in the preset when disconnected from USB?

Today I worked someone from tech support and got my firmware uploaded and working.

I use the Minitaur as a Taurus for my midi bass pedal controller. My controller has 89 program change buttons and I am happy to say that once I loaded presets into the Minitaur, I was able to to call them up from my controller.

This is exactly what i wanted.

Sean